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Long-time readers will know that we try not to clutter the front page of Slashdot with much stuff about the site itself; this is a rare exception, but we hope you'll like the reason: we want your opinions. You should see above a link to take a survey about Slashdot, and (just to be heavy handed) here's the direct link. The questions there are simple, but we're going to read the answers carefully. The reminder bar up there will remain active for some time, but this story will scroll down the page like all Slashdot stories. Comments are welcome below; surveys have their limitations, after all, but please don't comment without also giving the survey a visit — if it makes sense, feel free to cut-and-paste any answers from there as comments, too. The engineers who build this site (and the editors, too!) are counting on your honest opinions and hoping for some great ideas; ideas outnumber the hours we have to do things, so we hope you'll make a case for the ways that Slashdot should change (and the ways it shouldn't!).
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  • Moderation system (Score:4, Insightful)

    by tech4 (2467692) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @01:49PM (#37629846)
    The moderation system seriously needs thinking and redone. It's constantly abused on Slashdot, up to the point where it really has started to annoy people. All the stories are filled with slashdot groupthink comments and it's always clear what kind of comments will be modded up and which down. This especially comes up within certain subjects - anything anti-piracy will get modded to -1, as does anything that says good things about Microsoft.

    This really ruins the comment system as one is supposed to only have certain mindset and he is supposed to do all the same comments over and over again. Then there is the other mod abuse what happens when someone sees a comment he really doesn't like, so he goes on personal war against the poster and downmods all his comments from his comment profile, causing him bad karma and inability to post. Moderation system needs some serious work.
    • by jbeaupre (752124) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @01:57PM (#37630006)

      Slashdot has probably of the best comment systems on Earth. But it certainly is subject to orthodoxy. Unpopular opinions are modded down, turning some comment threads into echo chambers. I'd rather hear stuff I don't agree with than only one side.

      • by bigtomrodney (993427) * on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:09PM (#37630234)
        It's certainly not perfect, but I'd agree it's one of the best systems you'll find anywhere on the 'net. Look at the results of the vote systems on Digg and Reddit. Formerly sites that had intelligent contribution that have been brought to the lowest common denominator and worse. You do get a certain type of comment being approved frequently here but it's certainly a better trade-off than endless memes being rewarded while intelligent discussion is relegated to the darkest corners.
      • by causality (777677) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:23PM (#37630454)

        Slashdot has probably of the best comment systems on Earth. But it certainly is subject to orthodoxy. Unpopular opinions are modded down, turning some comment threads into echo chambers. I'd rather hear stuff I don't agree with than only one side.

        I've found that one can thoughtfully articulate an unpopular opinion in a way that causes others to consider ideas and perspectives they would otherwise be unwilling to entertain. Though they do it for petty and ignorant reasons, that same rigid orthodoxy winds up serving the higher purpose of helping me sharpen a skill that is otherwise more difficult and costly to practice. If they insist on being this way, let them; I will continue to use it constructively despite their narrow-minded intentions.

        If you're going to fix something about this site, you should first identify something that can be easily recognized as broken. What comes to my mind is the JS that drives the comment system. It's unresponsive as hell. Most of the time, I have to click "Preview" and "Submit" multiple times before anything happens. Even then, it often won't update to show me the finalized comment, forcing me to use my browser's Refresh button. Since this is neither consistent nor the intended functionality, I consider it a glaring and obvious bug(s). If I were the developer, I would focus on basic usability and getting fundamental functions to work smoothly before I'd move on to larger ideas.

        Otherwise, it would be easier to view the staff as a group of professionals if they'd take a small portion of their revenues and hire a good copy editor. Even a part-time copy editor would help tremendously. I frequently see mistakes that even automated spell-checkers would have caught. You're telling me an article submitted to an audience of millions isn't important enough to spend a few hundred milliseconds of CPU time to run a spell-checker? That would cost nothing, even if they can't be bothered to proofread anything. The lack of even basic attempts to achieve quality sends the message that these are not professionals who really care about the quality of their work, that they're just mercenaries who are not doing something they enjoy and value.

        • by hedwards (940851) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:45PM (#37630798)

          When they changed the meta-moderation system I stopped meta-moderating. I'd be surprised if I were the only one that stopped. The older system of an up or down vote was a lot easier to do, without actually spending huge amounts of time, it's just too hard to figure out what the moderation should have been.

          They could also provide an easier way of reporting abuses of mod points.

          • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

            by Anonymous Coward

            When they changed the meta-moderation system I stopped meta-moderating. I'd be surprised if I were the only one that stopped.

            I'd like to know how metamod is supposed to work these days. What's the thing that's actually being measured?

            The pre-AJAX metamod system was relatively simple to understand: "Was the moderator's action of ("Insightful" or "Troll") a reasonable moderation to apply to a given post or not?" Having the "see in context" URL handy was invaluable - a snarky one-liner might be (-1, Trol

          • by mjwx (966435)

            When they changed the meta-moderation system I stopped meta-moderating. I'd be surprised if I were the only one that stopped. The older system of an up or down vote was a lot easier to do, without actually spending huge amounts of time, it's just too hard to figure out what the moderation should have been.

            You dont actually have to pick a reason, but it's better if you do. The way I treat meta moderation is "how would I mod this if I had mod points" rather then trying to guess the way other people modded it.

            They could also provide an easier way of reporting abuses of mod points.

            An easier way to report abuses, will lead to abuses of that.

            Some people get modded down fairly.

            My only complaint about moderation is fanboy mods. This is most prevalent with the "cultists" but I see it happen with the "Hippy's" too (BTW, I lump myself in with the Hippy (Linux) crowd). The group supp

      • Re:Moderation system (Score:4, Interesting)

        by Okian Warrior (537106) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @03:53PM (#37631888) Homepage Journal

        I agree that the moderation system is very good.

        I have several opinions which are not mainstream here; for example, that most open source software is of poor quality [slashdot.org].

        When I articulate my views clearly and show illustrative examples, my comments get modded up. At the very least, it stimulates discussion and invites people to post counter arguments. Putting up examples puts the burden on them to counter the argument and also explain why the illustrative examples exist.

        It makes for real discussion, rather than people just posting their position.

        Look at other sites that just allow comments - it's mostly people saying "I feel this..." or "I think that...".

        Having the moderation system forces people to be better commentators.

      • by adolf (21054)

        I frequently give positive moderation to unpopular opinions that even I don't agree with, if the logic behind them is sane and the human reasoning seems genuine. Especially if the comment also brings new facts to a discussion.

        I cannot imagine that I am the only person with mod points to adopt this behavior.

    • "as does anything that says good things about Microsoft."

      They usually don't, at least lately :)
      On the other hand I agree, that anything counter-culture gets too easily upvoted. The opposing point of view might get upvoted as well, but they have to put much more thought into their comment to get the upvote.

    • by blair1q (305137) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @01:58PM (#37630024) Journal

      I don't see it that way.

      Being able to express a contrary opinion while retaining popular support is a skill. Being a dick about it is what gets you modded down to stay.

      Targeted moderation attacks do happen, but it's easy to see when they do, and you can request that your karma be repaired and the offender be dealt with. Mod points link back to the modder.

      I suppose the one change would be that you never get mod privs if you're not contributing otherwise, and the number you get starts at 1 and goes up with karma and participation. And then you can go to the marketplace and buy armor and weapons and potions and spells...

      • Re:Moderation system (Score:5, Informative)

        by Kozar_The_Malignant (738483) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:09PM (#37630248)
        If you feel strongly that mod points are being misused, participate in meta-moderation. This does two things. First, it calls attention to poor use of mod points, and second, it will get you mod points more often (assuming your karma OK.)
        • Re:Moderation system (Score:5, Interesting)

          by anyaristow (1448609) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:45PM (#37630806)

          I'm assuming meta-moderation is why I don't get mod points anymore. I've modded up some minority opinion and I've been punished for it.

          Not that this comment will ever be seen, as I'm also stuck permanently on a score of 1.

          Usually when I have the urge to comment I remind myself it's just Slashdot and posting is a waste of time.

          • by causality (777677) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @03:03PM (#37631098)

            I'm assuming meta-moderation is why I don't get mod points anymore. I've modded up some minority opinion and I've been punished for it.

            Not that this comment will ever be seen, as I'm also stuck permanently on a score of 1.

            Usually when I have the urge to comment I remind myself it's just Slashdot and posting is a waste of time.

            If it helps, I mod up unpopular or minority opinions all the time. There is no shortage of cases when an unpopular notion that no one really wants to hear happens to be the fuckin' truth. I'd rather people grow up and work to change any truth they dislike. I won't help them do otherwise, nor should I.

            I don't view it as "just Slashdot". I view it as a way to almost instantly reach a large audience of mostly intelligent people, a technological marvel no one would have imagined just a hundred years ago. Consider for a moment how easy it is to take that for granted. If Slashdot goes away, I'll do this someplace else. They don't have a monopoly on communication. What they do have is a community I appreciate that actually knows a thing or two about reason, despite the highly visible users who don't.

            Eh, even if you don't like a single thing I've said, at least for now your (quoted verbatim) comment is effectively at my +3 score.

    • by Tsingi (870990)

      The moderation system seriously needs thinking and redone. It's constantly abused on Slashdot, up to the point where it really has started to annoy people. All the stories are filled with slashdot groupthink comments and it's always clear what kind of comments will be modded up and which down. This especially comes up within certain subjects - anything anti-piracy will get modded to -1, as does anything that says good things about Microsoft. This really ruins the comment system as one is supposed to only have certain mindset and he is supposed to do all the same comments over and over again. Then there is the other mod abuse what happens when someone sees a comment he really doesn't like, so he goes on personal war against the poster and downmods all his comments from his comment profile, causing him bad karma and inability to post. Moderation system needs some serious work.

      I agree with what you say. But none of this is a big secret. Your post would be useful if you suggested a fix.

      • Here's my suggested fix:

        Move away from rating things +1 Insightful... to a simple "Agree or Disagree". Give a bonus for rating up or down posts that haven't been rated yet.

        Now, and here's the neat bit, allow people to filter the posts according to the best rated posts they agree with, and the best rated posts they disagree with.

        This way people will be presented with argument and counter argument, instead of just group-think.

    • Re:Moderation system (Score:5, Interesting)

      by snowraver1 (1052510) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:02PM (#37630116)
      1) Roll the comments system version back like 6 years. Make it load fast. Make it load all the comments on a single page (according to your moderation score preferences) If i'm browsing at -1, I want to see it all.

      2) Make it load faster. Sometimes pages take forever to load, then when they do load, they scroll slowly. I think this is caused by fancy javascripting or something. Just display the comments. We don't need/want any fancy web 2.0 features.

      3) We need better trolls. The trolls right now are lame. What happened to GNAA? Maybe you should invite them back.

      4) The comment quality is getting worse. Slashdot is now mostly mundane comments. Sure, some are funny, but most lack content.

      5) Take a note from Ars Technica. They are getting better commenters, they have original content (why not have feature stories here). Ars's commenting system sucks, but yet they still manage higher quality comments.

      6) Delete all accounts numbered 2,000,000+. Remove signup. Invite only.
      • by bigtomrodney (993427) * on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:11PM (#37630282)
        I agreed with everything you said, even about the trolls...but you can't be serious about removing members or making the site invite only. The moderation system does a fine job of silencing dumb comments.

        The biggest thing to take from this is the old comment system. I really don't know why everything feels so rubbery and unresponsive, I actually did like the graphical side of the site overhaul but the sluggishness kills me. I'd love the old site back for a month.
      • by Quiet_Desperation (858215) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:16PM (#37630342)

        snowraver1 (1052510) writes: 6) Delete all accounts numbered 2,000,000+. Remove signup. Invite only.

        Agreed, except that we should start at 1,000,000.

        • by LWATCDR (28044)

          Forget that. stope at 100,000.
          Actually when I look at other sites compared to Slashdot it is a revelation.
          Compared to CNN, Engadet, and most local new sites, Slashdot's commenters are on the whole much more civil, intelligent, and frankly good natured than most other sites.
          I would not allow AC commenters but I know that a lot of people on slashdot do not agree with that so.
          I would give people to ability to post as an AC but you still take a karma hit. Hey if it is not worth a karma hit to you say it then it

      • Re:Moderation system (Score:5, Informative)

        by Magius_AR (198796) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:43PM (#37630770)

        1) Roll the comments system version back like 6 years. Make it load fast. Make it load all the comments on a single page (according to your moderation score preferences) If i'm browsing at -1, I want to see it all. 2) Make it load faster. Sometimes pages take forever to load, then when they do load, they scroll slowly. I think this is caused by fancy javascripting or something. Just display the comments. We don't need/want any fancy web 2.0 features.

        Seconded, whoreheartedly. AJAX is the bane of current web browsing -- everyone seems to think it's a "better way of doing things", when in reality it's slower, annoying, and godawful to deal with.

        • by symbolset (646467) *

          Well whatever this is certainly doesn't work well on my Asus Transformer tablet on any of the three browsers I use. It's barely functional on my Android phone. It works fairly well in the stock Debian browser because I use Classic view. It was painful last time I tried it on the iPad. It works OK in most versions of IE I've tried, but I don't like to fire up a Windows box just to browse /. It seems somehow... wrong.

          It reminds me of the old web interface for some HP bladesystem gear - you needed three

    • by bky1701 (979071) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:04PM (#37630152) Homepage
      Ever think that maybe people on slashdot are just tired of hearing those poor arguments, not only on slashdot, but from the vast majority of the non-technical population? Holding a discredited view isn't something to be proud of, and people not kowtowing to you for it isn't a flaw.

      If you have an actual argument to make about something, then make it, and see if it flies. Moderation is to some extent the measure of how well this specific community has taken your comment. And that doesn't always fall along political/sect lines, as you seem to claim. I've seen many comments in favor of copyright and in favor of Microsoft get modded to +5. It is just rarer, perhaps because the people who typically make those comments do not share the same values as the slashdot community, or because they're just assholes.
    • Re:Moderation system (Score:5, Informative)

      by Dunbal (464142) * on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:22PM (#37630442)

      It's constantly abused on Slashdot, up to the point where it really has started to annoy people.

      Do what I do and read at -1, ignoring all mods. That way it won't annoy you. Yeah you'll run into the occasional goatse/GNAA/epic troll post. So what?

      If any changes are made to the moderation system at least let users like me be able to opt out of the new system, because ANY automated system can be abused by non-automated humans. I'd rather take my chances than miss out on the numerous good posts that never get modded up.

    • by fermion (181285)
      I do not think that /. has groupthink. Many of my comments are modded up and down. The lame one tend to stay down, while the ones that appeal tend to move up and down. The only thing I have noticed is that a single people who moderte on the basis on personal belief rather than rational discussion. In many cases, if the mod down early, a good comment can be lost n the din of 0 and 1 moderated comment. The one way that this might be prevented is that anyone who negatively moderates a comment(even overra
    • by sl4shd0rk (755837)

      > The moderation system seriously needs thinking and redone.

      Any suggestions? I can't think of any other way to make the rating system more accurate than drawing from a collective of geeks. Besides, moderation "floats" so you don't have the same people all the time modding things to their liking. The task gets spread around a lot of different personalities.

      > This especially comes up within certain subjects

      If your favorite topics gets frequently blasted off the moderation scale maybe that's a sign tha

    • by UnknownSoldier (67820) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:46PM (#37630812)

      > he moderation system seriously needs thinking and redone. It's constantly abused on Slashdot,

      Even WITH all the group think, it is _light_ years ahead of Reddit. You can't even hold a civil discussion over there. At least here people can disagree.

  • by SilverHatHacker (1381259) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @01:52PM (#37629906)
    I always liked triangles. Slashdot needs more triangles.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 06, 2011 @01:58PM (#37630014)

    Make it so I can see all the posts without logging in or Javascript. My usage of the site has gone down dramatically because it's a pain in the ass with the (relatively) new system. I have been reading the site since 1998 and this fucking sucks.

    • by Tsingi (870990)
      I agree with this wholeheartedly. My home puter, which has more js restrictions on it, won't let me moderate. So I don't.
    • by Jeng (926980) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:32PM (#37630578)

      If classic mode is ever disabled I will never visit again. I cannot stand the default mode.

    • This. It's really annoying that, when something really interesting comes up, it's a pain in the ass to see all the related comments.

      Sometimes I scroll through the initial 50 comments and decide I want to read more, but the next 50 are dispersed through the ones I've already seen, forcing me to read back through them all.

      Other times I know I want all the comments from the start, but I have to scroll to the bottom of the page, click the "get more" button, scroll again to the bottom of the page because it aut

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by eexaa (1252378)

      +1 insightful, but can't really mod you up without javascript...

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 06, 2011 @01:58PM (#37630020)

    Stop hitting the web server on my NAT box for ok.txt every time I post.
    Don't assume that any cookies you set will ever be sent back.
    Don't use referer fields at all, just send straight HTML.
    Don't use all this horrible crashy javascript.

  • article selection (Score:5, Insightful)

    by rish87 (2460742) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @01:59PM (#37630064)
    Some really terrible articles get through sometimes. Articles from some no-name person's blog that contain no or very few external links to anything to back up the crap put forth on their site.
    • by Nemyst (1383049) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:37PM (#37630650) Homepage

      This more than anything else.

      I can live with the sometimes dodgy comment system, the abusable moderation, etc. Honestly, it's not perfect but it's far more palatable than 99% of the systems out there like Disqus or flat comment systems without any moderation.

      However, if article selection keeps dropping, the site WILL die. The quality of the submissions is what makes or breaks a site like Slashdot, and even I feel like it's been declining of late (I'm not usually picky on things and hate people with nostalgia overload). Many articles are submitted by employees of the sites they're posted on and are of dubious value overall, often requiring commenters to give better links. If a paper is covered, good luck finding the actual link to said paper. Many times, summaries are incredibly biased and show that the editors plain and simply did not "edit", they simply took the thing from the firehose, ran a spellcheck (sometimes forgetting that step) and put it up on the main page. I find that unacceptable. If the editors are overloaded, which I would find surprising unless they happen to do a lot more work than is readily apparent, then find more editors. Perhaps implement some sort of election system for junior editors, where unpaid or paid members of the community get promoted to editor status. Anything to raise editing quality. I'd rather have a submission rewritten or denied than have horribly biased or even misleading summaries crop up on the main page.

      Slashdot is one of the few sites where I can expect serious, insightful discussions in the comment threads. I wouldn't want this to die because the submissions stop fuelling said discussions.

    • While tech articles are frequently ok, I've noticed life-science and physics stories especially have this problem. Often they feature sensationalist pieces trying to fluff up absolute garbage. The editors and story-submitters seem to have just enough background in the field to recognize the buzzwords and take the bait; not enough to render good judgement or comment in the header insightfully (in other words, too incompetent to realize how incompetent they are).

      Firehose /moderation doesn't help as much as

  • by GameboyRMH (1153867) <gameboyrmh AT gmail DOT com> on Thursday October 06, 2011 @01:59PM (#37630072) Journal

    Better quality editing.

    Sounds mean but it has to be said. Some of the stories over the last year or two have had blatant errors in the summary (one was even in the title, about some incident at a nuclear plant), I remember at least a few troll stories that got through, it's shameful. It seems like the posters are often putting more effort into the posts than the editors are putting into the articles.

    • by loteck (533317) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:17PM (#37630350) Homepage

      I really enjoy the community and the moderation system on Slashdot. The combination of the 2 are working well together, in my opinion, and I told them that.

      I also lambasted the editors for not editing, for headlines that are downright false, and various other editorial issues. One thing that stops me from suggesting slashdot to my friends is that I never know when some story is going to get posted with completely false information in the headline or summary, with a 100+ comment conversation that ensues about information that isn't even accurate.

      When that happens, and it happens often, it makes the site look foolish and by extension it makes me look foolish for having suggested it. Slashdot needs to tighten up the editorial department, for me that is the single biggest area for improvement on the site. I told them as much.

      • by subreality (157447) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @08:36PM (#37634404)

        I never know when some story is going to get posted with completely false information in the headline or summary

        This.

        Slashdot is billing itself as "news". I'm tired of reading headlines that are spun or outright lying to maximize nerd rage. You're not doing original reporting here, so the bare minimum is the editors need to RTFA and see if the summary and headline are accurate and from a vaguely credible source. Bonus points if you actually fact-check the articles.

  • by onyxruby (118189) <.onyxruby. .at. .comcast.net.> on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:02PM (#37630108)

    All I want is at least one professional editor. Somebody to do basic things like check for dupes, make sure stories aren't wholesale ripped off, basic fact checking, that kind of thing. This is done by almost every other professional news media site out there, can Slashdot please make this /one/ change?

  • by Blakey Rat (99501) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:03PM (#37630120)

    How about you read your own bug tracker and actually fix, or at least respond in some way, to the bugs in it?

  • by gQuigs (913879) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:04PM (#37630146) Homepage

    Bad stories. Useless stories. Stories that are identifiable after reading the first couple comments that they are in fact non-stories, trolling, or something like that. Stories should be demote-able, so less of Slashdot need waste their time with them.

  • by frank_adrian314159 (469671) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:05PM (#37630174) Homepage

    Bring back Jon Katz!!!!

  • This needs to stop (Score:5, Insightful)

    by SteveTauber (996603) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:06PM (#37630190)
    Articles shouldn't start like this: "Mr Submitter, with his first accepted submission, writes: [summary]". No one gives a fuck.
    • by brentrad (1013501) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @03:35PM (#37631658)
      I disagree. It is useful information, that tells us that we may need to be slightly wary of the article - did the article poster sign up for a slashdot account just so they could post an article from their own blog? On the other hand, if someone has posted many articles in the past, from that we can deduce that they're probably not an astroturfer, but instead a real actual slashdot regular.
  • by sampson7 (536545) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:07PM (#37630202)
    I filled out the survey, but I will share my major concerns here as well. I use IE 7. My company mandates its use and locks things down fairly well. I am a lawyer interested in science and tech policy, but with no actual computer skills (i.e., I programmed a few lines of HTML in my youth, but that's about it).

    Over the past few years, my user experience has gone into the gutter, with very few corresponding benefits. Boxes often overlap, and the whole site freezes on a regular basis. Most other sites are fine.

    As a result, I show up less. Sure, I could read it on my home computer, but eh. What's the point if you can't sit on a conference call while reading?
    • by StripedCow (776465) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @04:23PM (#37632278)

      Also, logging in is a disaster.

      It often happens that I'm reading a thread without being logged in, and want to reply to a comment. Then, at that point, of course I have to log in, but slashdot of course jumps back to the front page, and I totally lose the point where I wanted to leave the comment.

      It is so stupid, I sometimes just want to break things in my office.

  • Easy (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Quiet_Desperation (858215) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:11PM (#37630280)

    More poines.

    Oh, and more selection on the moderation. -1 Insane and +1 Really Insane and -1 Fanbois and +1 Well Played, Sir

  • SEARCH!!!! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by sconeu (64226) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:18PM (#37630356) Homepage Journal

    The search function completely sucks. If I'm looking for a comment that I *KNOW* was posted in an story, but can't remember the story, good freaking luck finding it.

    I usually wind up with better results by using google ("search text" +site:slashdot.org).

  • by Issarlk (1429361) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:19PM (#37630384)
    In 2011 we shouldn't have to wait 10 seconds after hitting preview for our less than 1kb of text to be checked and displayed back.
  • A Few Things (Score:5, Insightful)

    by nwf (25607) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:22PM (#37630436)

    In addition to the moderation / meta-moderation issues noted (confirmation bias anyone?) Changes over the past year have made reading /. on a mobile device (e.g. iPhone) almost impossible. Page loads take forever and it must be trying to calculate pi to 1 billion places for each page load. Plus, clicking a collapsed story to show it will scroll to the top. That's stupid. The "More" links are lame, too. You can keep clicking "more" to get more stories (since it only displays like 5), but when you go into a story to read comments and then come out, all your extra stories are gone. A simple "next page" feature would be far more useful. AJAX is all fine, but /. abuses it to the point where it detracts from site functionality.

    Oh, and more stories about ponies.

    • It's totally unusable on an Android phone. All the comments are hidden and I can't figure out how to move the threshold bar with a touch screen.
  • Edit your posts (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Dunbal (464142) * on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:26PM (#37630514)
    Being able to edit/delete your posts would be favorite. Yeah I know there's the preview button but often mistakes can slip through a quick proof-read. For a further example, look at how many actual submission titles/commentaries are riddled with spelling and grammatical errors... Now imagine the comments.
    • by Bucky24 (1943328)
      Honestly I'm not sure that's the greatest idea. Sure it could keep us from making stupid mistakes, but it could also lead to abuse of the system. I see this on facebook a lot, where people will post something, someone else will refute them, they'll get into an argument, then one person will just remove all their comments and the second person looks like they're crazy.
    • Hear! Hear! Just today I submitted a post titled "Did Alternative Medicine Contribute to Steve Jobs' Death?" I previewed the post, the text of the body looked fine, I hit submit and the title became "Did Alternative Medicine Contribute to Steve Jobs'". WTF??? Maybe the title change appeared in the preview, but I was too busy scrutinizing the body of the post. I cringed, considered resubmitting the post, but decided to skulk away. Nobody's gonna read that.

      I will hand it to the editors though, they have refac

  • All comments (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Telvin_3d (855514) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:32PM (#37630588)

    I want an option to automatically load all the comments on an article. not 250 at a time, everything. Every time. Automatically.

  • by cornface (900179) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:49PM (#37630860)

    There will be ten firehose entries for the same article. They will sit unposted for days, and then when it finally hits the frontpage it is from the same five people who always get articles posted, the worst link, the worst summary, and often through a spammy blog instead of the source.

    I was happy when the firehose opened up. I thought it would help out a lot. Instead it is just like a cruel joke seeing what could have been posted instead of what did get posted.

    The sad thing is you could move slashdot to a sub-reddit on reddit.com, possibly one of the worst sites on the internet, and it would be an improvement. For something masquerading as a technology site, the current setup is just embarrassing.

  • by guanxi (216397) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @03:20PM (#37631406)

    Slashdot works very well. I don't see any problems requiring a major change. Is this a solution (e.g., an editors' ambitions to leave their mark) looking for a problem?

  • by RobertLTux (260313) <robert@nOSPAM.laurencemartin.org> on Thursday October 06, 2011 @03:22PM (#37631444)

    1 esp for those that have "classic"/D1 style selected DO NOT ADD TEST STUFF (D1 was selected for a reason)
    2 have a -5 (oblivion) rating where you have to have N!^2 mod downs to reach it (you have to be down modded from 0 55 times to reach -5(oblivion)) then if you draw a posting with that rating 1 your ip is banned for 24 hours 2 after your ban you are limited to posting once a day (with an ip block check)
    3 add a function to mod POSTERS/Editors (they get blocked for a week if they reach -1 moderation)

  • by Rotag_FU (2039670) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @04:21PM (#37632248)

    One of the things that I find disappointing is that probably the single largest factor in terms of whether a comment is promoted or demoted is the time after the post hits the main page. It is extremely common to see average posts (i.e. limited informational or insightful quantity/quality) rated very highly (probably too highly) simply because they are submitted shortly (within 1-2 hours, often much less) after the parent post hits the main page. Conversely, insanely high quality posts (i.e. those with tons of useful information or insight) that are submitted after the magic window either do not get voted up or are only voted up to a minor degree.

    I understand why this occurs. A large influx of people are reading the comments shortly after the post and then there is an exponential decay afterwards. The result is that high quality and deserving posts do not get voted up since fewer and fewer people with mod points see them. It is completely understandable, however I think addressing this would have a significant positive impact. I know there have often been times that I would not post simply because I figured it was too late and practically no-one would read the comment so why bother. Unfortunately, I do not know how to solve this problem, just that it is real.

    I do realize that the meta-moderation system does have some limited impact here, but I think it is too limited to be effective.

    • If someone can really contribute to an issue, and takes the time to write a thoughtful post, complete with sources. By the time they are finished, the "magic window" has often passed, and their post never gets up-voted... I rarely make substantive comments any more, for exacty this reason: I know that the investment of time required to make a real contribution to the discussion means precisely that the comment will not be seen by most people.

      How to fix this? That's hard...

    • Unfortunately, I do not know how to solve this problem, just that it is real.

      The moderation system needs an overhaul to fix this problem.

      Today, you'll get 15 points to use over the next several days. So, you'll use them as you read normally. Most people go for the newer stuff, so the moderation pattern follows.

      To fix your problem, Slashcode would need to award targeted moderation points to people reading the articles after the magic window. They might only be valid for that one article, for instance.

      The

  • by mugnyte (203225) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @05:07PM (#37632812) Journal

    If there a filter for mod types? Sometimes I just want to see the Funny.

  • by blahplusplus (757119) on Thursday October 06, 2011 @08:35PM (#37634392)

    ... a trusted users system. I know people on slashdot that are intelligent and have reasonable judgement we really need these people to float to the top and given more weight. Trying to test out new systems to have these people float to the top would be nice. Politics usually seems to be slashdots worse subject - you get all sorts of nonsense in posts that are mere repeats of mainstream media talking points that are often false and misleading.

  • by grrrl (110084) on Friday October 07, 2011 @03:11AM (#37636396)

    I'd like a slashdot skin that looks like, say, eclipse, so I can read at work in way that isn't 100% obvious from the complete opposite side of the room (no privacy in this office).

    =D

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