Thanks for getting rid of auto-refresh. It sucked to have the page refresh while typing or scrolling.
Be careful when you do unicode. I know that's often requested, so it'll probably be done, but be aware it makes protection from injection attacks (including sql & script) much trickier. You probably want do do encoding on output and bound parameters on input, rather than trying to filter input.
The last day or two I had error saying I was posting from an open proxy, on multiple devices and networks. It
I've been reading slashdot for a long, long time, but only started posting within the last year or so.
Allowing editing of posts for during a grace period (10 minutes? 30 minutes?) would be a most welcome addition, if only to let me fix things when I screw up closing a italic tag.
But either way, thanks. It looks like you guys are working hard to make slashdot as good or better than it used to be.
I dunno, It really doesn't seem fair to let people edit the historical record, especially when people start replying to them. Waaaay too easy to put words in someone's mouth by making it look like they're objecting to something they didn't, etc. You need something similar to gmail's undo feature, which delays sending for a few seconds instead of actually calling the mail back once it's been committed.
Although that functionality does already exist in the "preview" button.
Agreed, you can already hit that Preview as often as you like, use it.
Actually, that preview button might make things worse sometimes. As I struggle with English grammar and edit my messages little by little while reviewing them in the preview, I sometimes forgot to take effects of all those modifications in the account and the end result is awkward. Like changing something crucially at the beginning of the message and leave later references unchanged accordingly. There is just too many things to think, and something slips trough. While this is my personal shortcoming and I'm
That is easy enough to counter by either allowing edits only if there have not been any replies yet, or by tagging the replies with original text that they replied to.
To prevent editing the 'historical record,' maybe have an indicator that that a post has been edited, which when clicked on shows the original content. Since most corrections would be minor typo fixes defaulting to the newest version would be preferred. If someone changes the substance of their post, it would be as easy as a single click to verify and the community could call them out on the change.
The ability to see past edits would address that. But really, we just need better editing. Preview helps, but a live preview would be better, prefereably with spelling, grammar and link checking.
The legitimate uses for after the fact editing seem to be catching something you missed in the preview, so fixing that at source seems to me to be the better option.
I dunno, It really doesn't seem fair to let people edit the historical record, especially when people start replying to them. Waaaay too easy to put words in someone's mouth...
I agree with both sides.
On other sites, like ArsTechnica, there is a culture of adding an "edit: typo" type subscript. But that wouldn't work here, because it is only by custom and this place is a bit more gladiatorial.
So my proposal for a technical solution would be to allow the addition of a post-script for 10 minutes or something. Like a few minutes ago I made an embarrassing their/there error, and like usual I saw the typo right after pressing submit, not during the preview (which I did use). I'd be abl
A button to show changes on edited posts is all that is needed (and extra DB fields for storing and tracking revisions). A revision limit could help with this.
The normal way is just to add a note "last edited yyyy-mm-dd-HH:MM" and every answer before this time has an good excuse, if it doesn't have anything to do with the new text.
Sometimes the preview doesn't actually show what will be posted. Formatting or tags that don't show up in the final comment, dropped characters, etc.. Make them match and preview will become useful again.
Allowing editing of posts for during a grace period (10 minutes? 30 minutes?) would be a most welcome addition, if only to let me fix things when I screw up closing a italic tag.
How about an option that forces you to use preview? That will solve your problem without affecting anyone else.
Note, I sometimes botch a comment. If I cared, I'd always use preview.
How about an option that forces you to use preview?
The problem is that I'm human; even with preview I occasionally make a mistake.
Perhaps a 2-minute grace period would suffice, and maybe even lock that out if there have been replies or moderation to the comment.
If people are really worried about back-editing to make responders look foolish, just quote the original post (or relevant parts) to preclude that kind of mischief.
Seriously, this is not a life and death issue, allowing a simple edit for a minute or two shouldn't cause such a panic.
Allowing editing of posts for during a grace period (10 minutes? 30 minutes?) would be a most welcome addition, if only to let me fix things when I screw up closing a italic tag.
I disagree, vehemently. Slashdot, as a forum-like medium, mimmicks conversation. By allowing you to fix things we allow e.g. the GNAA to retro-actively change part of the conversation. Not a good idea.
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Just kidding, I'm sure fixing slashcode for that is going to be a nightmare.
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auto-refresh sucked. Beware UTF8 injections (Score:5, Insightful)
Thanks for getting rid of auto-refresh. It sucked to have the page refresh while typing or scrolling.
Be careful when you do unicode. I know that's often requested, so it'll probably be done, but be aware it makes protection from injection attacks (including sql & script) much trickier. You probably want do do encoding on output and bound parameters on input, rather than trying to filter input.
The last day or two I had error saying I was posting from an open proxy, on multiple devices and networks. It
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Re:auto-refresh sucked. Beware UTF8 injections (Score:4)
I've been reading slashdot for a long, long time, but only started posting within the last year or so.
Allowing editing of posts for during a grace period (10 minutes? 30 minutes?) would be a most welcome addition, if only to let me fix things when I screw up closing a italic tag.
But either way, thanks. It looks like you guys are working hard to make slashdot as good or better than it used to be.
Re:auto-refresh sucked. Beware UTF8 injections (Score:5, Insightful)
I dunno, It really doesn't seem fair to let people edit the historical record, especially when people start replying to them. Waaaay too easy to put words in someone's mouth by making it look like they're objecting to something they didn't, etc. You need something similar to gmail's undo feature, which delays sending for a few seconds instead of actually calling the mail back once it's been committed.
Although that functionality does already exist in the "preview" button.
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Agreed, you can already hit that Preview as often as you like, use it.
Actually, that preview button might make things worse sometimes. As I struggle with English grammar and edit my messages little by little while reviewing them in the preview, I sometimes forgot to take effects of all those modifications in the account and the end result is awkward. Like changing something crucially at the beginning of the message and leave later references unchanged accordingly. There is just too many things to think, and something slips trough. While this is my personal shortcoming and I'm
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That is easy enough to counter by either allowing edits only if there have not been any replies yet, or by tagging the replies with original text that they replied to.
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To prevent editing the 'historical record,' maybe have an indicator that that a post has been edited, which when clicked on shows the original content. Since most corrections would be minor typo fixes defaulting to the newest version would be preferred. If someone changes the substance of their post, it would be as easy as a single click to verify and the community could call them out on the change.
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I dunno, It really doesn't seem fair to let people edit the historical record, especially when people start replying to them. Waaaay too easy to put words in someone's mouth...
I agree with both sides.
On other sites, like ArsTechnica, there is a culture of adding an "edit: typo" type subscript. But that wouldn't work here, because it is only by custom and this place is a bit more gladiatorial.
So my proposal for a technical solution would be to allow the addition of a post-script for 10 minutes or something. Like a few minutes ago I made an embarrassing their/there error, and like usual I saw the typo right after pressing submit, not during the preview (which I did use). I'd be abl
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They could simply allow editing so long as there are no replies/mods on the comment, as LJ does.
Or, better yet, do editing history, like Facebook (of all things) does.
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The normal way is just to add a note "last edited yyyy-mm-dd-HH:MM" and every answer before this time has an good excuse, if it doesn't have anything to do with the new text.
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Sometimes the preview doesn't actually show what will be posted. Formatting or tags that don't show up in the final comment, dropped characters, etc.. Make them match and preview will become useful again.
Re:auto-refresh sucked. Beware UTF8 injections (Score:4, Insightful)
Allowing editing of posts for during a grace period (10 minutes? 30 minutes?) would be a most welcome addition, if only to let me fix things when I screw up closing a italic tag.
How about an option that forces you to use preview? That will solve your problem without affecting anyone else.
Note, I sometimes botch a comment. If I cared, I'd always use preview.
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How about an option that forces you to use preview?
The problem is that I'm human; even with preview I occasionally make a mistake.
Perhaps a 2-minute grace period would suffice, and maybe even lock that out if there have been replies or moderation to the comment.
If people are really worried about back-editing to make responders look foolish, just quote the original post (or relevant parts) to preclude that kind of mischief.
Seriously, this is not a life and death issue, allowing a simple edit for a minute or two shouldn't cause such a panic.
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Seriously, this is not a life and death issue, allowing a simple edit for a minute or two shouldn't cause such a panic.
Neither should botching a comment. This is Slashdot, not something important.
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Allowing editing of posts for during a grace period (10 minutes? 30 minutes?) would be a most welcome addition, if only to let me fix things when I screw up closing a italic tag.
I disagree, vehemently. Slashdot, as a forum-like medium, mimmicks conversation. By allowing you to fix things we allow e.g. the GNAA to retro-actively change part of the conversation. Not a good idea.
Use preview.
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"Mimics."
Too late to fix it now...