why don't nerds need javascript? TONS of sites use it to very nice effect these days, and there's no reason to disable (don't give me the security line, any nerd worth their salt knows how to avoid any problems having javascript enabled might cause, especially since browsers are pretty good at detecting scripting attacks). get over yourself and turn it on.
Nerds don't need JavaScript because more often than not it's used for dumb, shiny and annoying features and ads which together just slow down the loading and viewing of the website.
Unfortunately, there's an increasing number of websites where basic features like search don't even work anymore without JavaScript. Graceful degradation seems to be a thing from the past.
Weirdly a nerd on a news for nerds site doesn't understand why a website should function with or without Javascript.
If you want to make sites that only function properly with Javascript, you have to accept that there will be ~1% of people that won't use your site. If this bothers you or your client, I suggest you learn how to use graceful degradation.
If you don't aim for 100% compatibility of your sites, then you ren't a web developer, or at least not a very good one.
uh, really? what if you just don't care about the minuscule amount of people who turn off javascript for whatever insane reason? clearly it doesn't hurt most news sites' bottom lines, so as a web developer i'm not worried either. javascript is the most supported language across computers worldwide.
sorry, but i just don't care about a cluster of paranoid nerds who think javascript is somehow harmful to them, or ancient machines that somehow lack a browser with js support. that's just the way it goes.
JavaScript was designed to be a tool for some extra interactivity on websites. You're abusing it and making it mandatory. If you still think it's about harmful JavaScript or web browsers without JavaScript support, you must be blind. It's about accessibility. Do you even read the posts you reply to?
who cares what it was "designed" for (which, by the way, was to add *important* functionality that html couldn't provide because, you know, technology moves forward)? the fact remains that javascript is the most supported language on the planet! the.5% or whatever of browsers with it disabled either belong to corporations or paranoid slashdot nerds.
look, nowadays the web *is* html, css, and javascript. that's a fact. my question is, why do people whine about javascript as if it's evil or something, it's po
You don't get it, do you? Graceful degradation is part of the WWW's design. Using broken HTML and using JavaScript to add the functionality that was left out is ridiculous. It's like crippling functionality that used to work and then applying a weird patch.
Search forms that don't work because the action attribute was left out and instead form submission is handled by XMLHttpRequest in JavaScript.
Using HTML elements with the JavaScript click event attached instead of anchors to link pages.
Yes, i do get it. I'm pretty sure i've never made a web site that wouldn't work with JavaScript turned off. But that doesn't mean i can't joke about it.
you're wrong though. you're talking like it's still 2004 or something. with all the nice libraries out there practically every site i visit has leaned how to use javascript properly, and guess what? it's great! more superficially, ajax is great when used right. slashdot uses it well, for example, despite what the small group of detractors might say. javascript enables sites to do MANY thing that simply CAN'T be done with pure html/css, and that's a GOOD thing. how do people not realize this? what sites do y
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Nice design.. but does not work wihout javascript enabled.
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so? quit being paranoid, enable javascript, and welcome to 2012.
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Why enable it if it isn't necessary? Slashdot is a nerd site so cater to the needs of nerds.
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why don't nerds need javascript? TONS of sites use it to very nice effect these days, and there's no reason to disable (don't give me the security line, any nerd worth their salt knows how to avoid any problems having javascript enabled might cause, especially since browsers are pretty good at detecting scripting attacks). get over yourself and turn it on.
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Nerds don't need JavaScript because more often than not it's used for dumb, shiny and annoying features and ads which together just slow down the loading and viewing of the website.
Unfortunately, there's an increasing number of websites where basic features like search don't even work anymore without JavaScript. Graceful degradation seems to be a thing from the past.
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Weirdly there's a growing number of web sites that don't work on a teletype any more, too.
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Weirdly a nerd on a news for nerds site doesn't understand why a website should function with or without Javascript.
If you want to make sites that only function properly with Javascript, you have to accept that there will be ~1% of people that won't use your site. If this bothers you or your client, I suggest you learn how to use graceful degradation.
If you don't aim for 100% compatibility of your sites, then you ren't a web developer, or at least not a very good one.
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uh, really? what if you just don't care about the minuscule amount of people who turn off javascript for whatever insane reason? clearly it doesn't hurt most news sites' bottom lines, so as a web developer i'm not worried either. javascript is the most supported language across computers worldwide.
sorry, but i just don't care about a cluster of paranoid nerds who think javascript is somehow harmful to them, or ancient machines that somehow lack a browser with js support. that's just the way it goes.
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JavaScript was designed to be a tool for some extra interactivity on websites. You're abusing it and making it mandatory. If you still think it's about harmful JavaScript or web browsers without JavaScript support, you must be blind. It's about accessibility. Do you even read the posts you reply to?
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who cares what it was "designed" for (which, by the way, was to add *important* functionality that html couldn't provide because, you know, technology moves forward)? the fact remains that javascript is the most supported language on the planet! the .5% or whatever of browsers with it disabled either belong to corporations or paranoid slashdot nerds.
look, nowadays the web *is* html, css, and javascript. that's a fact. my question is, why do people whine about javascript as if it's evil or something, it's po
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You don't get it, do you? Graceful degradation is part of the WWW's design. Using broken HTML and using JavaScript to add the functionality that was left out is ridiculous. It's like crippling functionality that used to work and then applying a weird patch.
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Yes, i do get it. I'm pretty sure i've never made a web site that wouldn't work with JavaScript turned off. But that doesn't mean i can't joke about it.
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I didn't get that it was a joke. My apologies.
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i agree - those are all problems ... when you have javascript disabled. the solution? turn on javascript and get over yourself. it's magic!
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you're wrong though. you're talking like it's still 2004 or something. with all the nice libraries out there practically every site i visit has leaned how to use javascript properly, and guess what? it's great! more superficially, ajax is great when used right. slashdot uses it well, for example, despite what the small group of detractors might say. javascript enables sites to do MANY thing that simply CAN'T be done with pure html/css, and that's a GOOD thing. how do people not realize this? what sites do y