And if anything, I think Linus ALWAYS comes off as a self-important douchebag.
Granted, I think all of the big names in tech are self-centered douchebags, so its not like Linus is somehow unique in that regard.
What I find as proof of the douchebaggery of Linus, its the "I'd change nothing" avenue of thinking. There are ALWAYS things every last one of us would change about projects we have been involved in. We are human beings, nothing is ever perfect - but the almighty Linus thinks otherwise. Douche.
Look, there's a bunch of stuff in this interview that I disagree with. That's okay; it takes all sorts.
But here's the thing: Linus has earned the right to be a douche.
We are long past the point of hagiography when it comes to Linus. In the early 90s, we all though it was cool that a young, rebellious upstart took on (in retrospect, argued cross-purposes with) the likes of Andrew Tanenbaum. Today, he's middle aged and getting crotchety, and now we just smile, shake our heads and remind ourselves that Linus i
Linus may sound douchey at times but I agree he has earned that right. On the flipside if you had a project turn into such an ingrained day-to-day OS I bet you'd be a bit proud too. Pride is not douchey when it is well placed such as in Linus' case.
That said, I've seen some pretty crazy things come from RMS and he gets nowhere near as much flak for it. Remember, this is the guy who helped kick-off the free software movement and was involved in many of the lesser-appreciated userland tools we all know and love and/or hate (sorry emacs, I'm a vi guy). He deserves just as much respect too, but the way he carries that weight is far different.
Between Linus and Richard, they are probably the two iconoclasts who kicked off the whole free software movement. First there was Richard with the free userland tools and then Linus with the kernel which made them truly free from bottom-to-top. Back in the day when Linux wasn't "ready" and BSD was still in litigation Richard stepped up and gave us tools which could compile and run freely and just about any Unix platform. Back when dialing up to a Unix box was the only way to get internet, apps like screen gave me warm fuzzies.
I wouldn't call either a douche, even though they may do douchey things sometimes. They are allowed. We all do it to one degree or another.
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Speak for yourself, I enjoyed reading it.
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Same here. Awesome read. Refreshing to see such a high-profile geek who doesn't feel the need to douche it up in interviews.
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And if anything, I think Linus ALWAYS comes off as a self-important douchebag.
Granted, I think all of the big names in tech are self-centered douchebags, so its not like Linus is somehow unique in that regard.
What I find as proof of the douchebaggery of Linus, its the "I'd change nothing" avenue of thinking. There are ALWAYS things every last one of us would change about projects we have been involved in. We are human beings, nothing is ever perfect - but the almighty Linus thinks otherwise. Douche.
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Look, there's a bunch of stuff in this interview that I disagree with. That's okay; it takes all sorts.
But here's the thing: Linus has earned the right to be a douche.
We are long past the point of hagiography when it comes to Linus. In the early 90s, we all though it was cool that a young, rebellious upstart took on (in retrospect, argued cross-purposes with) the likes of Andrew Tanenbaum. Today, he's middle aged and getting crotchety, and now we just smile, shake our heads and remind ourselves that Linus i
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Linus may sound douchey at times but I agree he has earned that right. On the flipside if you had a project turn into such an ingrained day-to-day OS I bet you'd be a bit proud too. Pride is not douchey when it is well placed such as in Linus' case.
That said, I've seen some pretty crazy things come from RMS and he gets nowhere near as much flak for it. Remember, this is the guy who helped kick-off the free software movement and was involved in many of the lesser-appreciated userland tools we all know and love and/or hate (sorry emacs, I'm a vi guy). He deserves just as much respect too, but the way he carries that weight is far different.
Between Linus and Richard, they are probably the two iconoclasts who kicked off the whole free software movement. First there was Richard with the free userland tools and then Linus with the kernel which made them truly free from bottom-to-top. Back in the day when Linux wasn't "ready" and BSD was still in litigation Richard stepped up and gave us tools which could compile and run freely and just about any Unix platform. Back when dialing up to a Unix box was the only way to get internet, apps like screen gave me warm fuzzies.
I wouldn't call either a douche, even though they may do douchey things sometimes. They are allowed. We all do it to one degree or another.