What's amazing to me isn't that/. has carried on this long, but rather that the comment quality on here hasn't gone the way of most social new sites. It seems that in general as a social news site ages, matures, and grows, the comment quality follows an inverse pattern. Or more simply, as the number of users approaches infinity, the comment quality approaches 4chan. Digg used to be a decent site for discussion; now you'd be laughed at for even suggesting that the comments might be notable. Reddit is quickl
As do I. Having comments separated by funny/insightful/etc, capping them at +5, and only letting a select few upvote is a surprisingly effective strategy.
Apparently it is, it would be very interesting to know why exactly this works. I mean, seriously, comments almost never get deleted here, right? (unless it's related to scientology?). And you can post as anomymous coward without logging in? It's a miracle that it isn't full of crap posts and automated spam messages.
It's a miracle that it isn't full of crap posts and automated spam messages.
At least part of that stems from the aforementioned moderation system, the fact that most regular users don't browse at -1 (which means we wouldn't actually see AC spam even if it was occurring), and perhaps also because geeks are not good marks for the sorts of products generally plugged via spam; that and geeks have the means, motive, and opportunity to take active technical measures against spammers making us doubly not worth the effort from the spammer's point of view. In short, The spammers don't spam
the fact that most regular users don't browse at -1
Actually I would recommend that everyone browse at -1. There isn't really that much spam/trolling to contend with -- in exchange for having to scroll past one or two racist trolls you'll get to see raw unfiltered discussion that may not have survived the group think that permeates the moderation system.
I stopped caring or paying attention to moderation a long time ago. Give it to me raw baby!
Actually I would recommend that everyone browse at -1. There isn't really that much spam/trolling to contend with -- in exchange for having to scroll past one or two racist trolls you'll get to see raw unfiltered discussion that may not have survived the group think that permeates the moderation system.
The problem is that the/. comment display system chokes on pages with more then 100 comments if you like to read in Nested mode.
Sure, it shows you multiple pages, but the splitting logic is absolutely craptastic, resulting in duplicate messages appearing on multiple pages, and some comments can't even be seen if one of the nested root threads contains more then 100 messages.
So - I generally pick a score level that is
(There's a bug in the bug tracking system for this issue. It's at least 5 years old and probably over 8 years old. Which shows how crappy the slashdot comment display logic is.)
D2 solved that issue. It spits out 250 comments at a time and you can keep requesting more of them until you have the whole damn discussion on one page if you are so inclined.
It's one of the few redeeming qualities of D2.
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Age and quality. (Score:5, Insightful)
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It's a miracle that it isn't full of crap posts and automated spam messages.
At least part of that stems from the aforementioned moderation system, the fact that most regular users don't browse at -1 (which means we wouldn't actually see AC spam even if it was occurring), and perhaps also because geeks are not good marks for the sorts of products generally plugged via spam; that and geeks have the means, motive, and opportunity to take active technical measures against spammers making us doubly not worth the effort from the spammer's point of view. In short, The spammers don't spam
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the fact that most regular users don't browse at -1
Actually I would recommend that everyone browse at -1. There isn't really that much spam/trolling to contend with -- in exchange for having to scroll past one or two racist trolls you'll get to see raw unfiltered discussion that may not have survived the group think that permeates the moderation system.
I stopped caring or paying attention to moderation a long time ago. Give it to me raw baby!
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The problem is that the
Sure, it shows you multiple pages, but the splitting logic is absolutely craptastic, resulting in duplicate messages appearing on multiple pages, and some comments can't even be seen if one of the nested root threads contains more then 100 messages.
So - I generally pick a score level that is
(There's a bug in the bug tracking system for this issue. It's at least 5 years old and probably over 8 years old. Which shows how crappy the slashdot comment display logic is.)
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D2 solved that issue. It spits out 250 comments at a time and you can keep requesting more of them until you have the whole damn discussion on one page if you are so inclined.
It's one of the few redeeming qualities of D2.