Part of the issue, is that Tech over 20 years has been so ingrained in our culture. 20 Years ago, Multi-Tasking OS (why would anyone want to do more than one thing on a computer) Email/Online Chats (this is for only Nerds who have no life) Mobile Devices (Only toys for geeks who want to show themselves as social outcasts)
Being that this technology had made it part of normal culture. This type of stuff is no longer the domain of the News for Nerds, because it just happen to be cool now.
Russian Government using Facebook to polarize the American People to destabilize the nation
For me the biggest change over the years has been realizing that Slashdot really is Stuff that Matters. I thought it was just nerds, but then...
- GCHQ leaked documents showed the targeted Slashdot for influence and malware distribution - Reddit and 4chan started having a measurable effect on politics, eventually giving birth to the alt-right - Russia managed to destabilize the UK and then the US via social media, and the EU only narrowly avoided it - It's actually possible that World War 3 will be started with
The hated of democracy will never stop. The people got what they wanted, not because they were stupid, nor because there was some grand conspiracy: they simply disagree with you about what's best.
People disagree on important things. That's humanity. It's not because one side of an issue is stupid, or because of Reds under the bed, but because people have different value systems, and thus can come to different conclusions as to what's best from the same data.
The Brexit campaign was awful. Endless lies, no plan even offered so it wasn't clear what people were actually voting for, and outside influences from social media.
It's also quite telling that Brexit supporters have stopped trying to claim it will be great and fallen back to "it's the will of the people", while also opposing any further democratic consultation.
Right. And I am sure the opposition told 100% the truth...
Equating a dog poop on the street and 200 tonnes of shit on your front lawn is about as dishonest as the Brexit campaign.
One of the campaigns invented a large lie, knew it was a lie, painted it on the side of a bus, made it the cornerstone of their campaign then said it wasn't true the day after polls closed.
All politicians exaggerate and lie, but Boris was exceptionally untruthful. And Gove, with his "people have had enough of experts"...
A year after the disaster and there was a women on TV saying she was going to vote remain, but at the last minute saw the old "straight bananas" lie on social media and changed her mind. When people still fall for lies that started in the 90s and have been debunked over and over and over again, what hope is there?
A year after the disaster and there was a women on TV saying she was going to vote remain, but at the last minute saw the old "straight bananas" lie on social media and changed her mind.
The worst thing about the straight bananas is that it isn't even completely a lie, but the truth is even more stupid. It was based on a misinterpretation of the Class I, II, III fruit and vegetable rules. It's true that the EU adopted those rules (because harmonizing rules is literally their job), but they were in fact the B
You seem to have this idea that you are the smart one who can see the truth but the voters are dumb and easily led and fall for every lie. Just so you know, that what "rejection of democracy" looks like. Voting is never about detailed analysis of facts - that's only important to rationalizing the decision after the fact. For issues that affect people in their daily lives, they can see what's actually happening around them, and vote accordingly. Lots of people just haven't been happy with how the whole EU
Democracy would be having another vote at the end of the negotiation, on the deal that has been offered. By that point enough old people will have died and enough young ones will have come of voting age to reverse the decision even if the demographics stay the same.
The Brexiteers don't really care about democracy. They won and they want that to be the end of it, which isn't how democracy works. If they had lost they wouldn't have just shut up about it, in fact they immediately started agitating the moment w
If we can only vote enough times, we can just stop when we get the result I want! Democracy!
The EU seems to have been built on that. Nation votes not to accept a charter? Vote again every so often until you get the vote you want, then it's forever binding.
It's also quite telling that Brexit supporters have stopped trying to claim it will be great and fallen back to "it's the will of the people", while also opposing any further democratic consultation.
I think it is safe to say that in most jurisdictions in which a referendum takes place and you lose you don't get to keep voting on a question until your side finally wins. Normally it is one and done.
You don't get to re-run the vote on the same question, sure. But this is an entirely different question.
At the referendum there was no plan. There were vague suggestions of an ultra-soft Brexit, staying in the single market and customs union, from prominent Remain campaigners like Boris, Gove and Farage (https://youtu.be/0xGt3QmRSZY). That was instantly abandoned and reneged on.
Once they are forced to reveal what the final deal is (because the EU will publish it), it's time to have a first referendum on tha
Never worry about theory as long as the machinery does what it's supposed to do.
-- R. A. Heinlein
Slashdot Died when CmdrTaco Left (Score:5, Insightful)
... or was forced out...
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Pretty much the truth. Now /. Reports on non-tech news.
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Part of the issue, is that Tech over 20 years has been so ingrained in our culture.
20 Years ago,
Multi-Tasking OS (why would anyone want to do more than one thing on a computer)
Email/Online Chats (this is for only Nerds who have no life)
Mobile Devices (Only toys for geeks who want to show themselves as social outcasts)
Being that this technology had made it part of normal culture. This type of stuff is no longer the domain of the News for Nerds, because it just happen to be cool now.
As well ever sense 9/11 p
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Russian Government using Facebook to polarize the American People to destabilize the nation
For me the biggest change over the years has been realizing that Slashdot really is Stuff that Matters. I thought it was just nerds, but then...
- GCHQ leaked documents showed the targeted Slashdot for influence and malware distribution
- Reddit and 4chan started having a measurable effect on politics, eventually giving birth to the alt-right
- Russia managed to destabilize the UK and then the US via social media, and the EU only narrowly avoided it
- It's actually possible that World War 3 will be started with
Re: Slashdot Died when CmdrTaco Left (Score:4, Interesting)
Russia managed to destabilise the UK? When did that happen?
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Last year with Brexit. We have been in turmoil ever since, severely weakened government and an unclear future.
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The hated of democracy will never stop. The people got what they wanted, not because they were stupid, nor because there was some grand conspiracy: they simply disagree with you about what's best.
People disagree on important things. That's humanity. It's not because one side of an issue is stupid, or because of Reds under the bed, but because people have different value systems, and thus can come to different conclusions as to what's best from the same data.
Re: Slashdot Died when CmdrTaco Left (Score:4, Insightful)
The Brexit campaign was awful. Endless lies, no plan even offered so it wasn't clear what people were actually voting for, and outside influences from social media.
It's also quite telling that Brexit supporters have stopped trying to claim it will be great and fallen back to "it's the will of the people", while also opposing any further democratic consultation.
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Right. And I am sure the opposition told 100% the truth...
Equating a dog poop on the street and 200 tonnes of shit on your front lawn is about as dishonest as the Brexit campaign.
One of the campaigns invented a large lie, knew it was a lie, painted it on the side of a bus, made it the cornerstone of their campaign then said it wasn't true the day after polls closed.
Ban you guess which side that was?
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All politicians exaggerate and lie, but Boris was exceptionally untruthful. And Gove, with his "people have had enough of experts"...
A year after the disaster and there was a women on TV saying she was going to vote remain, but at the last minute saw the old "straight bananas" lie on social media and changed her mind. When people still fall for lies that started in the 90s and have been debunked over and over and over again, what hope is there?
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A year after the disaster and there was a women on TV saying she was going to vote remain, but at the last minute saw the old "straight bananas" lie on social media and changed her mind.
The worst thing about the straight bananas is that it isn't even completely a lie, but the truth is even more stupid. It was based on a misinterpretation of the Class I, II, III fruit and vegetable rules. It's true that the EU adopted those rules (because harmonizing rules is literally their job), but they were in fact the B
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You seem to have this idea that you are the smart one who can see the truth but the voters are dumb and easily led and fall for every lie. Just so you know, that what "rejection of democracy" looks like. Voting is never about detailed analysis of facts - that's only important to rationalizing the decision after the fact. For issues that affect people in their daily lives, they can see what's actually happening around them, and vote accordingly. Lots of people just haven't been happy with how the whole EU
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Democracy would be having another vote at the end of the negotiation, on the deal that has been offered. By that point enough old people will have died and enough young ones will have come of voting age to reverse the decision even if the demographics stay the same.
The Brexiteers don't really care about democracy. They won and they want that to be the end of it, which isn't how democracy works. If they had lost they wouldn't have just shut up about it, in fact they immediately started agitating the moment w
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If we can only vote enough times, we can just stop when we get the result I want! Democracy!
The EU seems to have been built on that. Nation votes not to accept a charter? Vote again every so often until you get the vote you want, then it's forever binding.
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Either you have an arbitrary limit of one vote, or you evaluate every situation on its merits.
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It's also quite telling that Brexit supporters have stopped trying to claim it will be great and fallen back to "it's the will of the people", while also opposing any further democratic consultation.
I think it is safe to say that in most jurisdictions in which a referendum takes place and you lose you don't get to keep voting on a question until your side finally wins. Normally it is one and done.
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You don't get to re-run the vote on the same question, sure. But this is an entirely different question.
At the referendum there was no plan. There were vague suggestions of an ultra-soft Brexit, staying in the single market and customs union, from prominent Remain campaigners like Boris, Gove and Farage (https://youtu.be/0xGt3QmRSZY). That was instantly abandoned and reneged on.
Once they are forced to reveal what the final deal is (because the EU will publish it), it's time to have a first referendum on tha