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Introducing SlashBI 339

Posted by samzenpus
from the check-it-out dept.
By now you’ve noticed that Slashdot is growing. We recently introduced Slashdot TV, which offers up everything from “amateur” rocket launches to the return of Leisure Suit Larry. We revamped our newsletters. Now we’re launching some new sites devoted to very specific corners of tech. Our first one, SlashBI, focuses on the fast-changing world of business intelligence, and features articles and opinion pieces on everything from how Big Data and analytics could make salespeople extinct, to B.I. apps for your iOS device, to choosing the right database for a business. No matter what your background, chances are good you’ll find something of interest here. Swing on over, give it a look-see, and let us know what you think.

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Introducing SlashBI

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  • SlashBI (Score:2, Insightful)

    by StarTrekGirl (2629509)
    So Slashdot is turning into a blog site? Cmdr. Taco left because he wasn't happy with GeekNet's "ambitions" about the site? When do we get SlashHomo? There's so many questions to be asked...
    • Re:SlashBI (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @07:39AM (#39855873)

      So Slashdot is turning into a blog site?

      Slashdot was a blog site before there were blog sites.

    • Re:SlashBI (Score:5, Funny)

      by underqualified (1318035) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @07:46AM (#39855913)
      SlashBI - News for Bisexual nerds. Stuff that matter.
    • I remember when the term web log (blog) was first used to describe Slashdot in the late 1990s.

    • Re:SlashBI (Score:5, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @08:11AM (#39856119)

      Next in line, SlashBS where we repost all the bullshit we posted last week so you can complain about dupes all day!

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      I think Bill Hicks was right, about what they should do...

    • Re:SlashBI (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Pieroxy (222434) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @09:24AM (#39856899) Homepage

      Not only that, but BI is as related to Nerds than ... say, knitting. Sure, it's related to CS at large, but there are no nerds interested in BI. Businesses are, not nerds. Thus, what does this have to do with slashdot?

      • Re:SlashBI (Score:4, Insightful)

        by DarkOx (621550) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @10:05AM (#39857409) Journal

        Right nobody reading Slashdot cares at all about:

        automation,
        instrumentation,
        database engines,
        database design,
        very high speed transform / processing (ETL),
        information security,
        storage,
        etc.

        BI, at least form the geek perspective uses just about every discipline in IT and CS; which is why lots and lots of professionals get into; its actually a fascinating world to work in. My only question is does it make sense to have BI topic on Slashdot as 80% of all stories covered here could be put into it reasonably.

        • by Guignol (159087)
          Except the motivation for all of your examples is always self contained
          What do we like about automation/etc. ? the science behind it (and of course the almost garanteed good laugh thanks to the occasional smart troll and the fact that you are frequently finding insightful posts that challenge or open your preconcieved views on whichever subject)
          I won't claim I am anti-business, but I'm sure many just like me like to get here some news which have scientific value/material, and of course it is always good i
        • I'm inclined to the GP's point of view. Business Intelligence isn't that profound. As the joke goes, Military Intelligence is an oxymoron. Business Intelligence isn't even that respectable. Asking good questions would seem to be the hardest part. I'm sure there are guidelines for that. Shouldn't be hard to get a sense of the sort of questions to ask.

          Despite the seeming ease, we see managers, who must be using BI, really screwing up. And often in stupid, heartless, ugly ways that end up misunderstan

  • by smitty_one_each (243267) * on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @07:34AM (#39855841) Homepage Journal
    Business Int
    Capitalist glint
    Of shiny chin
    Fit to print
    Burma Shave
  • SlashBI (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @07:34AM (#39855843)

    Not to be confused with /b/

  • Err.. (Score:4, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @07:35AM (#39855847)
    Today is May 1st, not April 1st..
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Im outta here. It's been a good 10 years, but this reminds me of when Coke changed their formula. It's been fun guys, but I is outta here.

    • by PGC (880972) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @08:00AM (#39856027)
      But AC, you are the most active poster here. What would this site be without you... ?
      • by jamstar7 (694492)

        But AC, you are the most active poster here. What would this site be without you... ?

        A lot quieter? A lot less goatse?

    • by million_monkeys (2480792) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @08:09AM (#39856105)

      Im outta here. It's been a good 10 years, but this reminds me of when Coke changed their formula. It's been fun guys, but I is outta here.

      Anonymous Coward! Nooooooo!

      What will we do without your countless comments on every story? Even when the story was stupid and no cared, we could always count on you to pop in with something to say, even if it was only a "first post!". (I know you got modded down for those "First!!" posts, but somebody had to get the ball rolling and you were always there when no one else was.) You've been tireless in you support of this site, and we've never really thanked you for it.

      We're gonna miss you, old friend.

      • by rezalas (1227518)
        Don't fret, AC is a bipolar schiz with DID. While one personality shuns us, there are surely thousands of others that will continue to contribute greatly to the body of /. knowledge and social atmosphere.
    • by rastos1 (601318)
      In fact I welcome this step. It was just done in half-assed way. They should create a new site (with distinct name) for each crap topic that creeped in here during last years. And then they should see the readership on those sites to plummet. And slashdot.org should return to being a site about computers, technology, electronics, SW licenses and vi vs emacs.
  • SlashBI? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by wjcofkc (964165) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @07:36AM (#39855857)
    Perhaps "BizSlash" or "SlashBiz" would sound a little more relevant? My first though was "Oh great now we have a dating site for alternative lifestyles?" Past that I'm all for expansion, just please watch your step.
  • by MetalliQaZ (539913) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @07:37AM (#39855859)

    Eventually Slashdot will be nothing but a brand; a collection of minimally-viewed tech blogs that are finally sold to a media company and rolled into their large collection of robotic advertising delivery channels.

  • Here we go (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anrego (830717) * on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @07:38AM (#39855865)

    I don't even have any specific objections... this just feels wrong somehow. Maybe I'm cynical or just following the trend of slashdot pulse, sponsored "ask slashdot", slashtv, etc.. but this feels like when a big company buys out some site you like and runs it down the drain. Obviously that's not exactly what happened here, but I'm starting to think Cmdr. Taco leaving had the same effect.. like maybe he was holding back this tide.

    Right now it feels like the "gliding on legacy" phase.. coming soon is the "trying to gather new audience" stage.. then the "please come back, we're still cool and returning to our roots stage" and finally .. acceptance and forgiveness.

    I hope I'm wrong. I'd love to see slashdot return to its former glory.. or at least turn into something better than what it was. It managed to turn back from it's "digg" path a few years back.. maybe it can do the same here.

    • Re:Here we go (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @07:58AM (#39856015)

      It feels like they're flailing around at random, to be honest.

      SlashTV is wrong in one sort of way for the existing culture, but could be a deliberate attempt to take the site to a mass (from my perspective down market) audience.

      This is wrong in a different way for the existing culture, but could be a deliberate attempt to take the site to a different niche (but maybe more profitable?) audience. The slashdot poll about teleporters or whatever looks completely wrong on the new page.

      While moving in either direction would probably lose the existing user base it might also be profitable in principle. Trying to go in both directions, however, is probably going to be a disaster all round.

      There's no sense of strategy or direction.

    • by Hadlock (143607)

      Can we just skip to the "please come back, we're still cool and returning to our roots stage" and finally .. acceptance and forgiveness." stage?

      • Re:Here we go (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Anrego (830717) * on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @08:09AM (#39856103)

        Problem is slashdot has a huge legacy to ride out. People like me who've checked slashdot as part of their daily morning/lunch/whatever routine for in some cases over a decade and corny as it sounds, have lots nostalgic memories from past discussions. It takes a long damn time for that to erode away (see also: the simpsons).

        • Plus it would help if there was an alternative that was as good a place for conversation with nerds from many ages and skills, with a decent moderation system (for all its flaws) and a site design that doesn't make want to rip my eyes out.

          Anything out there?

          • by Patch86 (1465427)

            Maybe it's time to do what all good FOSS fans know to do when times are tough- fork it?

            Honestly, if someone set up a new Slashdot-clone, with the same functionality but with an absence of slashverts and marketing nonsense, I'd be a regular.

    • I pretty much see him as Atlas, he was trying so hard to keep the sky from falling.
      But he's only one man, and eventually he just gave up and let it fall.
    • I was at a pizza meeting with various Linux/software/techie/perl dev people and I mentioned about something I read on slashdot. They reacted, "What?!? People still reading slashdot?" So I asked what and where do "they" read now. I never got a straight answer, responses were mushy and only specific word I heard was reddit.

      OK, so this is a chicken-and-the-egg issue but what do real /. people go to these days? Can that be answered here if they all left?

  • by Bananatree3 (872975) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @07:38AM (#39855867)
    How much of this will be paid content?
  • by devnullkac (223246) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @07:45AM (#39855911) Homepage

    I'm usually one to let this kind of thing slide (so to speak), but if this topic is meant to be at all serious, SlashBI is hardly a serious name. B.I. will only last so long before it withers under the ridicule. I strongly suggest something like "BusInt".

  • Jumping the shark (Score:4, Interesting)

    by discord5 (798235) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @07:46AM (#39855919)

    Dear slashdot editors and admins,
    Please google the term "Jumping the shark". It is a concept you might want to familiarize yourself with. Oh hell, I'll just link it for you [wikipedia.org], since using google might be too geeky. Note that it doesn't necessarily involve actual sharks (nor any laser attachments to said sharks).

    Lose touch much with your core demographic lately?

  • by hackula (2596247) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @07:47AM (#39855929)
    Big Data Big Data Big Data Big Data... Big Data Big Data Big Data Big Data...

    Throw in some buzzwords, fine; but don't use the same fucking one over and over again!

  • by mrpacmanjel (38218) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @07:48AM (#39855939)

    Slashdot is a different beast now.

    I've been following Slashdot since the 90s and it just seems to be evolving into another unfocused blog.

    I loved reading Slashdot everyday(mostly!) but it just is not the same anymore.

    As a geek I felt I belonged to a site like this and felt very comfortable here. It's also one of the very few sites where I can be arsed actually commenting on anything.

    But over the past few weeks the story submissions are becoming less relevant to me now and Slashdot has become a less interesting place to be.

    Not to mention this new "B.I. feature" contains a link to "choosing the right database for your business" - yeah telling a site full of IT geeks how to choose the right database is a "smart" thing to do (even from a "business" perspective) - how patronising!

    • by xianzombie (123633) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @08:17AM (#39856191)

      I too started with Slashdot in the late 90's (closer to early 2000 I suppose).

      Life/work got in the way, so I quit following the site. I finally came back about 6 months or so ago, mostly lurking.

      Now I get the feeling most of the articles are aimed at getting page views. If it weren't for the comments section, I think I'd be just as well off looking at the stuff from Fast Company.

      Now if you'll excuse me, I need to clean up the vomit.

    • by godefroi (52421) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @09:14AM (#39856803)

      I've been following Slashdot since the 90s and it just seems to be evolving into another unfocused blog.

      See, that's where you're mistaken. It USED to be an unfocused blog (well, focused on interesting stuff, but otherwise unfocused). Now, it's focused laser-sharp at generating page views and getting us to swallow sponsored content. The focus that was missing has now been found, and it's money.

    • by cje (33931) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @01:03PM (#39859607) Homepage

      Slashdot died the day that Jon Katz left.

      Please, for the love of everything that is good and holy, bring back Jon Katz! /runs and hides

  • *close tab* (Score:5, Insightful)

    by 6Yankee (597075) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @07:49AM (#39855945)

    "No matter what your background, chances are good youâ(TM)ll find something of interest here."

    Nnnnnnope.

    • Re:*close tab* (Score:5, Insightful)

      by 6Yankee (597075) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @07:55AM (#39855977)

      That was cut and pasted from your summary into your comments box. How about less pratting around on stuff nobody wants and more fixing the basics?

      (And how damn long do I have to wait before I can post another comment? Excellent karma and apparently I can't be trusted not to flood the board. All I'm good for is ad eyeballs, it seems.)

  • Had to check my watch to see if it was April 1st.

    This place certainly HAS changed since the days of CmdrTaco.

  • by betterunixthanunix (980855) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @07:51AM (#39855957)
    Perhaps, "Eternal right-after-commander-taco-leaves?"
  • by thegarbz (1787294) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @07:53AM (#39855963)

    So is there actually some effort being put into SlashBI or are you attempting to subject MBAs and CEOs to poorly written summaries quoting irrelevant blogs trying to get page hits rather than reputable news sources?

    While you're at it did you actually hire an editor worth a damn or are we to expect crap headlines, spelling mistakes, extreme bias, opinions in the summary, and how could I forget everyone's /. favourite; dup articles that are always 3 days behind the actual news?

    • by godefroi (52421)

      are we to expect crap headlines, spelling mistakes, extreme bias, opinions in the summary, and how could I forget everyone's /. favourite; dup articles that are always 3 days behind the actual news?

      No, I don't think you'll need to worry about that. All the "stories" will be written by PR and marketing departments of "Big Data" vendors.

  • I like Slashdot. Frequently, there's interesting, if not somewhat bizarre, discussions on this site. Plus there are quite a few highly educated people who hang out here and throw in some interesting comments now and then. But Slashdot is not (at least to date) a news site. It's more of a tabloid. Not to say that there is anything wrong with that but to use Slashdot as a source of serious information? Not unless serious vetting takes place for the stories posted here.
  • Good idea (Score:3, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @07:58AM (#39856011)

    Finally a place for the uninteresting stuff, so they don't have to put it up on the front page.

  • Holy crap (Score:5, Informative)

    by PCM2 (4486) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @08:00AM (#39856033) Homepage

    Has anyone actually looked at that site? Holy crap, that's all I can say. I'm floored. It has all the appeal to a longtime /. reader of a piece of dog shit on your shoe. I'm having a hard time understanding how it even came to exist. I'm actually really depressed now.

  • by bazim2 (625704) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @08:01AM (#39856041)
    Ddd someone just use the word 'leverage' in a article title? Surely not! http://slashdot.org/topic/bi/shortage-of-b-i-talent-a-critical-hurdle-in-quest-to-leverage-big-data/ [slashdot.org] And what are those silly stock photos all about? I'm not sure I recognise the model of computer in the linked article.
  • What I think (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Jim Hall (2985) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @08:03AM (#39856051) Homepage

    I think Taco exited at the right time. Also, I think I might be spending less time here, if Slashdot has started focusing on keywords like BI, and away from the core idea of "News for Nerds, Stuff That Matters", which is why we joined the site in the first place & kept coming back.

    • Re:What I think (Score:5, Insightful)

      by marcop (205587) <marcop AT slashdot DOT org> on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @08:50AM (#39856551) Homepage

      Couldn't agree more. This site is becoming forgettable. The news isn't all that interesting any longer. Slashdot used to be my central geek news site, but now I can find more geek news elsewhere, albeit across multiple sites.

      Editors... get back to the basics and do it the best in the industry. Then your site will grow. And while you're at it...moderation is going downhill too. Personal attacks are increasing and moderators mod them up as "interesting". The comments section is one of the main features of slashdot, but they are becoming less enjoyable to read.

  • Clearly false... lurking since 1998
  • loss of focus (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Tom (822) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @08:04AM (#39856059) Homepage Journal

    Instead of doing more stuff, how about doing the stuff you should be doing better?

    There have been complaints about the editing and story selection - the core aspects of /. - for many years now. It may not be true, but this second side-project feels like confirmation that one of the reasons this has never been fixed is that you're simply trying to make more money with more stuff.

    I have taken a good look at this new offshot, and I can guarantee that it's the last look I have ever taken on it. I simply couldn't care less, even though I am the CEO of a small company, so I'm right there in your target audience.

    But I don't come to /. for "business intelligence" (more on that in a second) and I don't expect any from /. and I don't trust /. as a source of any. One of the reasons loops back to the beginning: If you are not doing an excellent job in your core business, why should I expect you to do a good job in an offshot project?

    As for "business intelligence" - that crap is a dime a dozen. If you want to enter the market, do something different. Like actual intelligence. The word largely means "information" these days, but it should mean more than that. A good intelligence source requires really good editing. And that is not exactly a strength of /.

    I hope this dies a quick death and you will learn that you need to make your core business brilliant before even thinking about doing anything else.

    • by EL_mal0 (777947)
      I fully agree. They have even screwed up the key aspects of what makes /. great - the comments. It doesn't look like the discussion is moderated, instead you can "Like" a comment. I am not aware of any site where this leads to good, informative/insightful discussion. If you're going to use the "Slash" there, it really, really ought to behave, if not look like, Slashdot. Otherwise, why bother?
      • by rb12345 (1170423)

        I wondered about this as well. We have a perfectly good mod/meta-mod system on traditional Slashdot that is a lot more flexible than Facebook-style "Like". Why not use it? A "+n likes" button tells you a lot less about why a comment is good or bad than "4, Informative" or "-1, Redundant", too, which you would think would be essential for SlashBI to work well.

        I may be odd though, since I miss being able to mod Facebook posts Troll, Funny or Insightful, too...

  • SlashPHB (Score:5, Insightful)

    by TheSpoom (715771) <slashdot@NOSpAM.uberm00.net> on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @08:05AM (#39856069) Homepage Journal

    Quick-hit tech items... check.
    No context... check.
    Lots of buzzwords... check.
    Lots of random, cool-looking stock photography having nothing to do with the stories... check.

    Why not just call this SlashPHB and be done with it?

  • Doesn't ring true (Score:4, Insightful)

    by LighterShadeOfBlack (1011407) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @08:07AM (#39856093) Homepage

    No matter what your background, chances are good you’ll find something of interest here

    If you really believe that then why does it need a separate site? You could just post it on Slashdot with everything else.

  • by hessian (467078) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @08:14AM (#39856157) Homepage Journal

    Instead of trying to make add-ons to Slashdot, or other slashdots, expand the categories available for article posting and let us filter them by what we want to see.

    The frontpage is already populated with stuff that's far from "news for nerds," and most of us like it that way. Just make /. the news aggregator for people with IQs higher than their sock sizes (as opposed to Fark, Digg, Reddit, StumbleUpon, etc.)

    Personally I enjoy the mix that Slashdot brings out. It's anything a nerd/geek would find interesting and want to hack on. Even if that's in the world of economics, big data, academia or inter-species love.

  • Transcript (Score:5, Informative)

    by QuasiSteve (2042606) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @08:22AM (#39856243)

    Title: Slashdot's SlashBI: All Your Busines Intelligence Info in One Place
    Description: SlashBI is a new site for the latest in business intelligence news and analysis, created each day by the industry's top experts, and produced by Slashdot.

    00:00) <TITLE>
    A small picture of "Nick Kowalski - Senior Editor, Geeknet" appears over a screenshot of the Slashdot website featuring the "Bitcoin Mining Startup gets $500k in Venture Capital" story which slowly zooms out.

    00:00) Nick>
    Slashdot is growing.
    We have exciting new sites in the works.

    00:04) <TITLE>
    The backdrop changes to that of a blurred view of the SlashBI page, that slowly becomes sharper, featuring the post "B.I. Analysts: Start with the Right Questions, Then Use Tools".

    00:04) Nick>
    The first one, SlashBI, focuses on the fast-changing world of Business Intelligence.

    00:11) <TITLE>
    The view changes to that of a post with a tree graph from the "Smartphones, tablets and other mobile devices are driving the need for more storage." article.

    00:11) Nick>
    Its articles and opinion pieces, which are created by a mix of technologists and experts, field everything from BI fundamentals for businesses [...]

    00:18) <TITLE>
    The view changes to the "Choosing a Database That's Right for Your Business" post.

    00:18) Nick>
    [...] to choosing the right database.

    00:20) <TITLE>
    The view changes to an interview video.

    00:20) Nick>
    SlashBI will also feature videos of developers and other notable figures in BI.

    00:25) <TITLE>
    The view changes to that of the "Salesforce EVP Byron Sebastian: Platform-as-a-Service Here to Stay" post.

    00:25) Nick>
    More companies than ever are relying on Business Intelligence apps that collect and analyze data.

    00:32) <TITLE>
    The view changes to a screenshot of another article listing a few BI mobile apps.

    00:32) Nick>
    With this information in hand, executives can make more informed choices [...]

    00:35) <TITLE>
    The view changes to that of an overview of several SlashBI posts.

    00:35) Nick>
    [...] about everything from marketing and sales to production.

    00:37) <TITLE>
    The view changes to that of several styles of BI analysis graphs

    00:37) Nick>
    Rapidly growing areas of Business Intelligence include predictive analytics, datamining and performance management.

    00:44) <TITLE>
    The view changes to a still of, identified by caption, "Crawford Del Prete - Executive Vice President, WW Research Products - IDC" as it fades to a graph with a generally upward trend.

    00:44) Nick>
    Research from IDC predicts the big data market will grow from $3.2B in 2010 to $16.9B in 2013.

    00:55) <TITLE>
    The view changes to that of a car with a through-hood turbocharger with its engine shown.

    00:55) Nick>
    That's more than enough information growth to supercharge the BI sector.

    00:58) <TITLE>
    The view changes to an overview of SlashBI posts scrolling past.

    00:58) Nick>
    SlashBI's news stream will keep up-to-the-minute track of the latest acquisitions and software releases, [...]

    01:05) <TITLE>
    The view changes to that of the "Death of the Salesmen: The Geeks Did It" op-ed post.

    01:05) Nick>
    [...] while its analysts and pundits offer a big picture view of the action.

    01:08) <TITLE>
    The view changes to that of a stylized head shown in profile with various technical elements within, and the text "Business Intelligence - http://slashdot.org/topic/bi [slashdot.org]" overlaid on it.

    01:08) Nick>
    So, all the intelligence you'll need on Business Intelligence.

  • by amaupin (721551) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @08:24AM (#39856261) Homepage

    You haven't defined a background-color for the body element, so it defaults to transparent. That means users will see whatever color they've told their web browser to default to as a background-color. No doubt you meant the site to have a white background, but you need to specify it. Browsing with an off-white color as my default, SlashBI looks pretty bad...

    Rookie css mistake that is embarassingly common.

  • by Tastecicles (1153671) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @08:31AM (#39856335)

    and thanks for all the fish.

  • If I were Slashdot (Score:5, Insightful)

    by blind biker (1066130) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @08:32AM (#39856345) Journal

    If I were in charge of Slashdot, I'd rather concentrate on improving the quality of the posts - the summaries are eye-bleedingly horrid in every aspect. The only reason anyone ever comes to /. is the quality of some of the replies in the thread. That is, it's the readership that makes Slashdot valuable.

    Piss off your readership, and you pissed away Slashdot - since the quality of the content is otherwise rubbish.

  • by IrquiM (471313) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @08:34AM (#39856363) Homepage
    ...slashdotter which works with BI and find this interesting?
  • Dear Slashdot Editors,

    Please spend some time getting intimate with a writing course. Such as this one [thegreatcourses.com] by prof. Armstrong. Come back when you'll have a clue.

    Sincerely,
    tibit

    PS. Prof. Armstrong is geeky. She is quite rational and measured in her speech, even if that means many /. "articles" would make her barf.

  • ...are you going to take the five minutes to code in support for this thirteen-year-old technology [ietf.org]? Or do you think âoebugs like thisâ(TM) are acceptable on a purportedly professional-looking website?

  • by ledow (319597) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @08:45AM (#39856489) Homepage

    Nearly ten years ago, I joined this site. I have quite a low ID by the standards of most of the comments I see on articles now, so maybe I've just been here long and aren't in touch with "nerds" any more.

    I don't know a single "nerd" who has an iota of interest in "business intelligence". I'm not even sure I could tell you what it is, short of a poxy management fad that I hope never to have to deal with.

    And if you're no longer "news for nerds", I don't think I'll bother to come back. Seriously. That's not why I signed up, not why I look at the site and not why I paid to get rid of the advertising all those years ago.

    SlashTV was your first hint of what you were doing wrong. Enforcing change without consultation and without listening to your readership. But, hell, you did it anyway, and then tried to apologise for doing it (when it would have taken seconds to get rid of it). Now this crap.

    Sorry, a few month's ago, I vowed to minimise my visits to this site to only those articles I have a direct interest in and cannot find elsewhere. As it turned out, that would have left me no reason to come here but I did so out of nostalgia. But now? Business-crap? Really?

    There's needing to pay the bills and there's selling out your readers. This is the latter. I have no interest in it. Purely out of a profound sense of nostalgia and fondness for what this site used to be, I may pop back to see if you've realised your mistake and got back to the core of your readership, but the chances seem slim now.

    Until then, ta ta. Enjoy your "business intelligence" site and crappy videos. I think that The Reg will be my next refuge, but Slashdot has been invaded by big business far too much, trying to monetise what they know rather than what's here.

    • by horza (87255)

      Heh you think that's bad you should try reading the articles. I only got as far as the choosing a database one. Apparently the guy that uses Postgres thinks people should use Postgres but the guy that uses MSQL thinks you should use MSQL. Oh and apparently there is database called MySQL. There is no comparison between them, mention of features, or in fact anything you would expect to find in an article on a tech site. The article reminds me of those churned out by Indian freelancers who write copy for searc

  • by MonsterTrimble (1205334) <monstertrimble.hotmail@com> on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @08:48AM (#39856517)
    Seriously, everyone needs a shot of Bailey's (or if you're like me, Amaretto) in their coffee. First off, Slashdot is (part of) a business - they're here to make money. They're showing you a new offering they have in case you are interested. Accept it, move on. Secondly, NOBODY is forcing you to read SlashBI. If it's not a story which interests you, DON'T READ IT.
    • Re:Why the Hate? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by jesseck (942036) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @09:41AM (#39857109)

      The hate is here because this is insulting. We're not hear to get sold products, for the same reason many of us don't window shop at Best Buy or Radio Shack- the sales staff will push a phone plan or the most expensive, unnecessary tech crap. I don't read most of the articles posted, anyways, because the comments seem to have more content about the subject. Just like this one- I can read the headline and summary, and by reading the comments I now know not to follow the link. If I have to get hammered in order to stomach a site full of crap, I would find something better to do (like get hammered and browse more entertaining sites).

      The concept of a "nerd" is going away- now, people who are "good at computers" get the title. They don't hack and tinker in life. This BI crap is the same- it's for people who went to business school and are "good with computers", and ended up a suit somewhere. SlashBI is not for nerds. Its for the bosses of nerds. For those of us who stay true to our roots, and do things, don't need SlashBI. "Geeknet" is failing at this /. thing.

  • by EL_mal0 (777947) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @08:49AM (#39856525)

    That site should have nothing to do with the /. name. The community of (more or less) like minded people is what has made this site special since its inception. "News For Nerds". That important little slogan disappeared from the banner at the top of the page early last year. Now this business improvement blog is aimed at helping executives make important decisions. It says so right in that poorly done video. That doesn't sound like /. to me.

    I, like many others who post here have noticed the decline in the quality of both stories and comments over the last 8 or so years I've been coming here. Most of this hasn't been the site's fault. But with /.TV (which has a HUGE icon up on the top line, ever noticed?) and this B.I. site, the discussion appears to be less important. I don't even see an obvious way to join a discussion on the TV site.

    I guess this is a long way of saying that I think this is a bad idea. You're changing the mission of the site, maybe in order to broaden your audience, but I think it will just end up alienating the loyal audience that has been around for a long time.

  • by meta-monkey (321000) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @08:50AM (#39856545) Journal
    Oh look, a SlashdotBM.
  • by BlueBlade (123303) <mafortier AT gmail DOT com> on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @08:52AM (#39856563)

    Well folks, that's it, the beginning of the end. Instead of making sure the site stays attractive to hardcore geeks, the people who are managing slashdot are diluting its value by doing some blatant marketing pushes.

    I've been reading slashdot daily for what, 8 years now? Between the stupid "vlog" and all the latest attempts at being something it should not be, I think I'm going to be done with this site soon.

    Slashdot has always done only a few things, but these core qualities were done extremely well, making this site interesting for people like me.

    1. Keep the signal to noise ratio high. The moderation system has worked well to keep the SN ratio relatively high. Browsing at +2, when not moderating, keeps the discussion fairly clean and interesting. It's degraded a bit over the years, but I feel this is still slashdot's strongest point. Compared to sites like digg and reddit, slashdot discussions are mostly sane, polite and flame-free.

    2. By the virtue of point 1 above and being a site targeted at hardcore geeks, you often get to speak with people involved in the stories first-hand. Over the years, I read and participated in threads with some very smart, interesting people. On stories about solar powered car competitions, we had the participants pitch in. On stories about new wireless chips, we sometimes had the engineers who designed it comment. On stories about Star Trek, you had Wil Wheaton giving behind-the-scenes stories. This was possible because slashdot was a site where geeks felt comfortable having discussions. Over the last few years, slashdot has been slowly losing this quality.

    3. Clean, clutter-free interface that doesn't attempt to be anything else than a good place to discuss news stories of interest to geeks. Geeks like function over fluff and slashdot delivers. It doesn't need to be ugly, just functional and not distracting. All the crap you've been adding to the site of late is detracting from this. Things like the stupid videos or the "pulse" poll; blatant advertising barely disguised as something else.

    This is just one geek's opinion, but slashdot is slowly going in the wrong direction. I know that if you keep this up you're going to lose me as a reader, and I have the feeling I'm far from the only one.

    • by EL_mal0 (777947) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @09:01AM (#39856679)

      I kind of get the feeling that this sort of shift has been in the works for a while. The tag line "News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters" has been missing from the banner at the top of the page since early last year. Yeah, it still shows up at the top of your browser on the main page, but if you're using Chrome, like many, many people do these days, you don't get to see that; you don't see the mission statement of the site for most of the past 15 years. I think that's telling.

      As you say, they're going in the wrong direction, and I get the feeling they don't think that's a bad thing.

  • by tekrat (242117) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @08:58AM (#39856643) Homepage Journal

    Chances are, this was discussed in the boardroom, and Rob Malda suddenly came to realize what 'selling out' really meant.

    Slashdot is owned by a conglomerate that just wants to make money -- and for a while, Rob had some creative freedom, but that time has long past.

    I notice that all these changes (slashdot TV, for example) came *after* Taco left, but something tells me these plans were on the whiteboard well before the retirement happened.

    Slashdot is just a name now. In the early days of the web (1995 to 2002), slashdot was a big deal, but the unfortunate reality is, they are losing money compared to say Chezbuger.org or whoever owns lolcats.

    The sad reality is that pictures of fat people in walmart generates more ad revenue than a "news for nerds" website.

    And this is why Taco left. Facebook is king, and Slashdot isn't. The web has changed. It's not the place it used to be. Now it's about Facebook and Google. They make the rules. And now you have to play by those rules or die.

    For me, more and more every day, the internet is over. It's become corrupted by corporate greed. Time to find something new to play with.

  • by Craig Maloney (1104) * on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @09:52AM (#39857225) Homepage

    This is now my go-to site for crappy Web 2.0 clipart.

    Bookmarked!

  • by shish (588640) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @02:55PM (#39861015) Homepage

    Old Slashdot [alloveralbany.com]

    Recent Slashdot [justcomedies.com]

    New Slashdot [funcheap.com]

    So yeah. RIP, the slashdot that I once cared about :-(

    (That, and even the community has dropped in quality recently; witness how every ubuntu story is full of people who are too dumb to apt-get install a different WM to replace unity -_- Back in my day, customising your OS to fit your needs was the norm, nay, the entire point of using linux - people would be shunned away from the site for being noobs if they dare complain about how hard it is to compile their own desktop environment from source...)

  • by saccade.com (771661) on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @03:03PM (#39861131) Homepage Journal
    What, you're sucking up to MBAs now? Taco! Come back...we need you!

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