How to best "close up the internet in some way":
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Install sarcasm detector ... (Score:4, Informative)
(And in case anyone didn't spot the inspiration for this poll: https://tech.slashdot.org/stor... [slashdot.org])
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Where's the "build a wall" option??
Re:Install sarcasm detector ... (Score:4, Funny)
Just shove something down the tubes. Like a big truck.
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Just shove something down the tubes. Like a big truck.
In my house, that big thing would be Netflix.
Re:Install sarcasm detector ... (Score:5, Funny)
A Great Wall and make the terrorists pay for it.
So Tell Me... (Score:2)
...how is "close up the internet in some way" materially different than Clinton's call for the social media to shut down terrorists social media accounts [washingtonpost.com]?
Interesting contrast to how people react to practically the same suggesting from two different candidates.
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How does "shutting down the entire internet" or at best "walling off the USA from the rest of the world" compare to "shutting down certain accounts"? Is this what you are asking?
Granted, neither technique would be effective; and Clinton's would probably propose some ministry of truth style organization to determine what "free speech" is allowed or not.
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Where's the CowboyNeal option? Or better yet, where's the "shoot The Donald into space and then pretend we censored the Internet" option?
Nuke from orbit (Score:2, Funny)
Nuking this from orbit is the only way to be sure
Re:Nuke from orbit (Score:4, Funny)
What do you mean? An African or European nuke?
It doesn't matter (Score:5, Funny)
It doesn't matter, but it has to be unladden. It's no good if it's bin ladden.
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+1 wordplay.
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Because I misspelled (I thought they were with two "d"s and for some reason my browser spell check did not warn me) and slashdot is too cool for edit buttons.
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European nukes have a higher yield...
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Nuking this from orbit is the only way to be sure
Isn't the internet designed to survive nuclear strikes? LOL
I originally liked Trump... (Score:4, Funny)
When Trump decided to run, I listened to what he said, and it was like a breath of fresh air, but lately he's been putting his foot in his mouth and this last "foot_in_mouth" ends my support for him... Trump.... You're FIRED!!!
Re:I originally liked Trump... (Score:5, Funny)
Donald: What if I don't want to be elected? ...out of a cannon, into the sun.
Leela: Then you'll be fired...
Donald: Fine.
Leela:
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Donald: What if I don't want to be elected? Leela: Then you'll be fired... Donald: Fine. Leela: ...out of a cannon, into the sun.
I would crowdfund the building of this cannon.
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No need; Jeff Bezos will launch him into space for free! [twitter.com]
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Are you kidding?
His announcement speech was the first salvo in the almost non-stop demagoguery coming out of his mouth. "Round up the illegal Mexican aliens they are all rapists, drug smugglers and terrorists."
Go to YouTube and search for Mussolini Taranto Speech. I know it's in Italian and all but watch the body language and facial expressions. There is an uncanny resemblance between Mussolini and Trump. If you understood the Italian you'd note more similarity there.
Trump is engaging in nothing but old
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" illegal Mexican aliens they are all rapists"
Again with the lies. He did not say that. You put it in quotes so don't say you were paraphrasing.
This is precisely why he has support. I would say stop lying, but I think it's too late for that already.
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Funny that you would use CBS as your barometer of truth. The place where Dan Rather was caught lying red handed over partisan politics, and as punishment was gently retired a few months later. It's not like they turned things around after that.
CBS bears a good chunk of the responsibility for Rush Limbaugh, Fox News and now Trump. Considering how much I trusted them under Walter Cronkite, they have fallen far.
Oh, and bite me with your name calling.
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How is more of the same on steroids a "breath of fresh air"? All his positions are hyper-hyperbole that the right has been angling at for the past decade plus.
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So just to be clear, the Naziesque blanket statements about Muslims didn't repel you, but when he started demonstrating that he doesn't understand the internet, that turned you off?
No Muslims = Fascist Fetish
No Porn = Turn Off !
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Re:I originally liked Trump... (Score:4, Informative)
OK, just to be clear, he did not say that. New immigrant Muslims, temporarily, until we can vet them, Not citizens.
This is why he has support, because of all the fucking lies that fly around since Walter Cronkite died.
Re:I originally liked Trump... (Score:4, Informative)
So yes, the Campaign spokeswoman explicitly said it would include "everyone". How do you find that ambiguous?
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thehill.com is a political rag, desperately clinging to the teat of the Koch Soros Buffet establishment, and the reason why Trump is doing well in the primaries in the first place.
I heard his other spokeswoman (attractive blackish woman with long black hair) say "of course not American citizens" just this afternoon on CNN before leaving work. Not that CNN isn't also part of the problem. They meant to tear her up and she held her own.
I don't find any part of it ambiguous. And if Trump gets elected and then g
Re:I originally liked Trump... (Score:4, Informative)
He hides a fire behind a smokescreen. (Score:2)
He doesn't change his mind. Google "Trump doubles down".
He changes the subject, by saying something new and equally barmy.
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And the one about the 9-11 celebrations in NJ? And the police no-go areas in London?
Does he keep the shredded wheat on his head while you're sucking his cock?
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So the thing is, about half the population have below-average IQ. (Which isn't certainly the only factor for determining "stupidity", but you get the idea.) Outside your social bubble, you might see a lot of "stupid people", and they all have voting rights.
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According to this BBC article [bbc.com], Italian police arrested 15 Muslim migrants who allegedly threw 12 Christians off of their boat.
The 15 Muslim migrants involved in the row with Christians were arrested in the Sicilian city of Palermo and charged with "multiple aggravated murder motivated by religious hate". ...
Eyewitnesses told police how the altercation resulted in Christians being thrown overboard, and that some of the survivors had formed human chains to avoid a similar fate.
The Christian migrants who were thrown off of the boat are "all feared dead".
I don't know what proportion of non-American Muslims would do this, or would approve of it. But before we accept someone into the US as a refugee, we should make sure that they are against attacking someone else because of his religious beliefs.
Re:I originally liked Trump... (Score:4, Funny)
Dick Cheney said the following:
Well I think this whole notion that somehow we need to say no more Muslims and just ban a whole religion goes against everything we stand for and believe in. I mean religious freedom’s been a very important part of our, our history.
When Cheney says you're out in left field, you are really out there.
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I think you mean right field, Bernie is out in left, who's on first.
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So just to be clear, the Naziesque blanket statements about Muslims didn't repel you
Nothing in the grandparent post indicates this. You made it up and pretended he said it. You are lying.
Perhaps you missed this part of the comment: "this last "foot_in_mouth" ends my support for him" The GP explicitly stated that in fact this was the watershed moment at which Trump lost their support. Or maybe it's just that you fail at reading comprehension, which is not surprising if you're such an athletic Trump supporter.
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I don't like that the smart idiots
I don't like that the smart idiots of the world '
Then Trump is your man, in spades.
so simple.... (Score:2)
Turn off the lights. Nobody would want to use a dark net.
how about get bent? (Score:2, Informative)
Why isn't get bent an option?
Also perhaps Trump has never heard the John Gilmore quote, "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it."
Ask the Chinese how well their "Great Firewall of China" is working. People who want around it, get around it...
Elaborate Comb-over to cover it up? (Score:2)
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Re:"these are foolish people" (Score:4)
No, the "foolish people" Trump is talking about are the ones who say "You can't have the federal government censor the Internet because that infringes on Freedom of Speech." He calls that foolish. I call that kind of talk (protecting free speech) the right path. Yes, there's a limit. If you tweet "I'm going to blow up X" with a photo of a homemade bomb, you should get a visit from a law enforcement agency. If your website is HowToShootAsManyPeopleAsPossible.com, don't be surprised if the government is watching you. Still, we shouldn't have blanket bans on speech. Especially when the best way to fight hate like this is to drag it into the light and expose it for the repugnant mess that it is.
The Bill Gates reference seems to be because, apparently, Trump thinks that Bill Gates controls the Internet. Trump is a businessman and so he thinks in terms of ownership. Gates ran Microsoft which was a big software company so therefore (in Trump's mind), Gates must own parts of the Internet. This is the same guy who claimed he set up sites as complex as healthcare.gov for $5. As a web developer, if someone asked me to make them a simple website for $5, I'd quietly chuckle and calmly explain how much these things actually cost. If they wanted me to make a HealthCare.gov-sized site for $5, I'd drop all politeness and laugh right in their face before ending all communications with them.
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The only way I could possibly see Trump developing a major website for $5 (even if we exclude domain name/hosting costs) would be if he outsourced the development to some dirt-poor third world
Don't need to do nuthin (Score:2)
The folks currently designing web sites and protocols are well on their way to making the internet unusable for any purpose other than transmitting cat pictures. If you interfere with them, it is possible (albeit unlikely) that they will inadvertently miss some opportunity to make things even worse.
Sometimes it is best to just let nature take its course.
One option is missing (Score:2)
C4 Protocol (Score:2)
To quote the Mythbusters: When in doubt, C4!
Require all routers to have C4 and blasting caps installed. Make it illegal to remove or tamper with it. Then, when someone is accused of a crime online, detonate their router. I'll go first and accuse Trump of multiple hate crimes and inciting violence.
This is too obvious ... (Score:2)
Just wait...it will close down by itself (Score:2)
make Facebook an internet gateway (Score:2)
No need for the second one (Score:2)
"C4 or thermite on every BGP router."
I thought most BGP routers already did the equivalent of this through on-board failures every few weeks or so.
On a side note, items like this are why we need Trump as president, for the sheer amusement value when the haters take comments like this seriously.
Illegalize ISIS (Score:3, Funny)
The best option is to Illegalize ISIS and enforce OSPF.
backhoe fade (Score:2)
In the Internet backbone industry it's called "Backhoe Fade." Signal loss due to action involving backhoes. This happens in Backhoe Season, spring when major outdoor construction restarts for the year.
GunTV (Score:2)
There are two choices (Score:2)
Learn to live with the free exchange of ideas
Try and stop it..and most often fail
Constipate the tubes (Score:2)
Put the US government as the master ISP. (Score:2)
Facebook is awful!!! (Score:2)
Bulldozer, bulldozer, bulldozer! (Score:2)
Nuke the site from orbit (Score:2)
Explosives are Effective but ... (Score:2)
No reason to get overly creative (Score:2)
Build a wall around it.
not funny (Score:2)
Am I the only one that finds this singularly inappropriate in Slashdot of all places?
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So who is he running interference for? Hilary?
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So who is he running interference for? Hilary?
I have a hard time believing that he's NOT in this thing to screw it up for the Republicans and make things easy for Hilary.
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Re:Hindsight (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Hindsight (Score:4, Insightful)
That might just be the first explanation I've seen for current US politics that actually makes sense...
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US Politics making sense - that's something that haven't been seen in a long time.
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Re:Hindsight (Score:4, Informative)
So far, every time people have asked "did you really say what we thought we heard you say?" Trump has answered "Hell yes!" The guy isn't using subtle innuendo; he's saying this fascist shit explicitly and then doubling-down on it when challenged!
Makes a change (Score:2)
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From his past, he's a property developer who sells people the vision of luxury hotels with casinos and golf courses. All of his opposition then would say, "it won't make a profit", "it'll ruin the landscape". He's going to have to shout them down in order to get it built, even if they were right.
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I'm not diluting the term; I'm claiming that Trump's demagoguery, rhetoric, and platform is literally and without exaggeration strikingly similar to Mussolini's and Hitler's.
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Sounds like a satirical assessment I saw of Jeremy Corbyn, the recently elected and controversial Labour party leader in the UK, a few days ago: he's reportedly losing support from all sides on account of his policies, and pretty soon the only group he'll have left to back him up will be an obscure political organisation known only as "The Voters".
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One day we'll all recognize that Trump's whole campaign was a elaborate and brilliant work of satire. A straw man based on the decadent, ignorant, fearful, hate that hides in the heart of every one of us.
I think that's actually true, in a way. Trump says all sorts of stuff he's not really serious about following up, just because it makes good sound bites and he likes to sound outrageous more than he likes to sound smart (I've had more than on manager like that). IMO he's deliberately hamming up his "role", deliberately being as provocative as possible. And it's working: he's getting continuous press coverage as we head into the 2016 primaries.
Trump is the first Right-Winger in a long time, possible since
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Well, he can make a lot of noise, but I start to get the feeling that he's going so outrageous over the top that many voters no longer sees him as a serious alternative, especially the voters that have links to recent immigrants. Yesterday Mexicans, today Muslims, tomorrow Frenchmen...
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It's worth remembering that Trump is first and foremost a "pitchman". He's not saying this stuff off the cuff: these are "tuned pitches" that he's tried out on progressively larger audiences. I rather suspect that he's quite popular with people who believe "they turk our jurbs" or those who've seen their neighborhood quality of life take a perceived dive due to immigration. Blue collar America gives 0 fucks about political correctness, after all, and he's quite popular there even with Democrats.
Is that a
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It's an interesting idea, but his negative ratings in the polls are very high. Name recognition is not enough if everyone shudders upon recognition of your name.
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Nope, you're not paying attention if you think Trump isn't really saying this stuff. He's coming up with it on his own, and he fully stands by it when asked for clarification.
Re:No one over the age of 25 can be allowed to mak (Score:5, Insightful)
Age has nothing to do with it, up to a point.
I'm over 40 and I also consider Donald Trump an idiot for having such ideas.
However, I also think all the younger people are idiots for using Facebook and giving all their information and privacy away.
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+1 The fastest way to keep me off the internet would be make me use Facebook. I'm not so sure why the FB user base is so trusting of FP, Identity Theft teams and the government. As they say in the IT security field "It's all fun and games until you get doxxed or your identity gets cloned".
I'm 15 years older than U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M (U23M to friends) and I think Donald is a
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Donald Trump isn't an idiot, he's a textbook narcissist.
Of course, the two are not mutually exclusive.
even easier, force upgrade to windows 10 (Score:2)
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Actually there is a real easy way to tidy up the internet without going nuts. Quite simple ban modems and require all internet connections to go to firewall/router/modems and that would solve a lot of problems. Any problems with security and the firewalls are update and thus keep pace with problems. Whilst individual computers would still be at risk with inexperienced users that hardware firewall will cripple the spread of any bad software.
Re:Rally? facebook login? (Score:5, Informative)
OMG the most popular option is Facebook login for everything? The same company that is also the one most synonymous for "all your data belong to us" and will sell it to anyone with a buck? Wow you guys leave me speechless.
Did you read the other options or even the poll? They are all about destroying the Internet. Requiring Facebook looks like an effective way to do that.
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OMG the most popular option is Facebook login for everything? The same company that is also the one most synonymous for "all your data belong to us" and will sell it to anyone with a buck? Wow you guys leave me speechless.
Think of it like Ghostbusters when Gozer asks to chose the form of the destructor.
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OMG the most popular option is Facebook login for everything? The same company that is also the one most synonymous for "all your data belong to us" and will sell it to anyone with a buck? Wow you guys leave me speechless.
If I had to log in to Facebook to use the Internet, I would not use the Internet. That is as good as closing it off for me. That is why I chose that option.
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OMG the most popular option is Facebook login for everything? The same company that is also the one most synonymous for "all your data belong to us" and will sell it to anyone with a buck? Wow you guys leave me speechless.
Umm, haven't you seen that the poll is about the best way to "close up" the internet?
You know, to like kill it? I chose that option because I hate Facebook, and I'd find something else to do if FB login was a requirement.
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OMG the most popular option is Facebook login for everything?
Because the question is how to stop up the internet. Everyone who refuses to use facebook will therefore immediately be barred from the internet that requires fb login everywhere. Many /, users refuse to use fb and have no login. Therefore it is the most logical answer to the posed problem.
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If any poll actually needed a Cowboy Neal option it would be this one.
Facebook is my Cowboy Neal.
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Indeed, we should let corporations run the country, they're more efficient and always have the customers best interests at heart. This is what treaties like TTIP are for - giving the corporations more freedom.
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In what way does that make Trump OK? Yes, he can't do anything without support, but he's still the one saying stupid and dangerous things.
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Words have meaning. Rallying people around be dangerous ideas is not OK. The followers aren't dangerous by themselves either, not without someone to follow.
I don't understand what your point is anyway. You admit his ideas are dangerous and yet you feel the need to defend him. You can be both critical of Trump's followers and critical of Trump, the two aren't mutually exclusive.